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Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.



Hello,
Le Lundi, 4 Avril 2005 08.41, Sven Luther a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates
> are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs
> and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which
> will not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due
> to the longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel.
>
> I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give
> them over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who
> will be handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and
> beyond kernels.
>
> I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting
> their maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team
> anyway, and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a
> small change.
>
> 2.4 series will be dropped post sarge, at least as far as powerpc is
> concerned, so it would be nice to have someone with interest in the
> remaining 2.4-needing subarches to show up and propose patches for 2.6.
> These are :
>
>   o oldworld miboot refuses to work with 2.6 for some obscure reason, i got
> it working three times in oldebourg, but it stopped working mysteriously,
> and no positive report since then. well, miboot is non-free and currently
> non-distributable anyway, so ... Maybe the quik-from-a-floppy work will
> help us there.
>
>   o apus kernels. There is some 2.6 work, which i will apply as a subarch
>   patch to 2.6 kernels in the future, and build. I have no apus box at the
>   moment though (altough i am getting a A(3|)000, but needs a powerup card
> for it still.
>
>   o nubus kernels. Those have been added to 2.4.27 kernels, but i have got
> no report of their working or not. I heard there was willingness to work on
> 2.6 nubus kernels, and i would greatly appreciate getting patches for them,
> and people with interest for testing.
>
> All the other cases will work fine with 2.6 kernels, and there should be no
> problem in dropping 2.4 for them. Anyone still running 2.4 kernels on
> powerpc except for the three above cases needs to think it over seriously,
> given the over one year now abandonement of upstream linuxppc developer of
> the 2.4 branch.
>
> Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are :
>
>   1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64
>   variants.
>
>   2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches.
>
>   3) forward porting of the above mentioned patches and inclusion in the
> main 2.6 kernels.
>
>   4) work on some way to move the serial console and other fbdev drivers to
>   modules which are loaded as early as possible from the ramdisk, to
> further reduce the size of the kernel.
>
>   5) maybe start including some embedded kernels, depending on availability
> of hardware and interest.
>
> Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment
> here.
I'm just a debian-powerpc user... But I compile my kernel myself, and I can 
just tell you: KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK !

Thanks 
>
> Friendly,
>
> Sven Luther

Best Regards

Guillaume



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