Pierre: According to Ben, you don't need to patch in the section @@ -2129,7 +2131,31 @@ in radeon_base.c it's for a seperate problem apparently. That avoids the need for making new definitions but...I found I still can't get things to work...I'm still trying though and when I get my setup working i'll post a description of everything that needs to be set for X to work. cheers andrew