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Re: Second round of powerpc subarch investigation : boot-loaders.



Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:

> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:31:15PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 11:29:38AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > In order to continue work on making debian-installer subarch friendly, i
> > > now launch a second round of investigation concerning the way different
> > > subarches boot. The situation as i understand it is :
> > > 
> > > newpmac: uses yaboot (uncompressed kernel + separate initrd) or OF
> > > (.coff kernel, don't know about initrd). Debian-installer will boot with
> > > yaboot, and the CDrom can be made to be auto-bootable, altough i don't
> > > know how.
> > 
> > The bootability of the CD is taken care of by mkisofs. It gives the
> > CD an HFS 'blessing' which makes it bootable, and it boots according
> > to the ofboot.b script which yaboot supplies.
> 
> Ok, altough i will let this part of it to the newpmac DDs working on
> debian-installer.

Can somebody please confirm that the images from my branch boot (with
rootskel from cvs in localudebs)? Sven did build images fine but he
doesn't have the hardware for yaboot.

> > We have tried to avoid getting users into OF in the past, probably
> > because it's hard to provide Forth-based support in an installation
> > manual. I don't know how .coff booting works either.
> 
> :))
> 
> > > oldpmac: uses bootx, miboot, quik or serial console OF. OF uses the
> > > .coff kernel, don't know about initrd. miboot uses floopy for kernel
> > > (compressed) and initrd. bootx can use a kernel and separate initrd, and
> > > quik cannot be used for cdrom boot. It is said that it is possible to
> > > use miboot to cdrom boot or ssomething such, but i have not confirmed
> > > these rumors. debian-installer will be installable from either bootx
> > > (uncompressed kernel + separate initrd) altough we will not provide
> > > bootx on the CD, or miboot (two or more floppy images).
> > 
> > We do provide BootX in the archive now, it should still be on the CD.
> > But it's there as a Stuffit archive; it's not usable directly from the
> > CD and must be installed on the user's hard disk.  Someone said
> > mkisofs could put BootX on the CD as a double-clickable MacOS
> > application, but I'm skeptical. If it could, then the kernels could
> > also be placed in the same folder with BootX, and BootX might find
> > them.
> 
> This would be great. Let's try to do this, and a similar thing could be
> done for apus also.

For apus there should be an Icon that directly calls it from the
CD. Should be no different then the normal Amiga m68k.

Same "freeness" problems too that allways got ignored silently in the past.

MfG
        Goswin



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