Re: useful links & one caveat: apt over ssh
howdy--
i would recomend using the newest kernel, Etsushi Kato's mach_kernel +
Debian 3.0 installer, to format a partition, and then install the base
system via CD or ftp. (i usually use the base install CD, and then upon
rebooting install the rest via ftp).
i am using a kernel that is one revision older than Estushi's latest, and
it seems to work fine: sound, net, video, and the like. the newest one
seems to have a few more ethernet drivers built-into it.
all in all, i would recomend woody over all other distro's for installing
onto an old world pmac. not only is the install farily easy once your
figure it out (despite the prevailient complaints...) and the apt based
package management makes life oh so easy.
there is only one problem that i have been having with woody.. perhaps
somone can figure this out...
'apt-get install [package]' seems to alwasy die when run from either an ssh
session, or over a consol connected via the serial port. the only time that
i am able to use 'apt-get install [package] over ssh is when i am also
logged into the main consol.
if anyone knows what this is casued by, it would surely save a lot of
hassel!
i will add your notes tonight if that is ok with you.
dylan
Clive Menzies said at ÒRe: useful linksÓ.
[2002/10/31 13:19]
> >At 10:12 am -0800 31/10/02, dylan wrote:
> >Clive-
> >i added a little more contrast to the color scheme on the page,
> hopefully it
> >helps a little (can you tell that i am fond of black backgrounds with
> amber
> >text?)
>
> Thanks ;-)
>
> >http://fungus.ucdavis.edu/~dylan/
> >
> >i would be happy to post your notes, as well as anyone else's regarding
> >Woody and Xwindows on old world scsi macs.
>
> Here are the notes but from a brief look at your webpages, it looks
> as though there is a later mach_kernel that I should try? If so I'll
> gladly update the notes accordingly. Do you recommend a reinstall
> from scratch or just upgrading the kernel?
>
> Installation notes for Woody on Nubus PowerPC's using the Apple
> MkLinux Booter and the Kernel with Debian Potato installer.
>
> I couldn't get potato (Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r5) to run X, recognise
> the floppy or use ppp successfully and so I upgraded to woody after
> installing a LAN and ADSL.
>
> These notes describe the woody (Debian GNU/Linux 3.0) installation on
> a PowerPC 8100/80 via the internet (broadband connection) accessed
> from a LAN with a DHCP server.
>
> It is assumed that one or more Linux partitions reside on your hard
> disk. I used pdisk (MacOS). For partitioning help see:
> http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/powerpc/ch-preparing.en.html#s-non-
> debian-partitioning
>
> Stage 1: Installing Debian Linux booter
>
> 1. Obtain the Apple MkLinux Booter from:
> http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
>
> It comprises three folders , the contents of which need to be copied
> to Control Panels (1 file), Extensions (1 file) and Preferences (2
> files) folders - it's pretty self-explanatory.
>
> 2. Download the Mach_Kernel from:
> http://www.symsys.com/~ingram/hardware/powermac/
> (the Kernel with Debian Installer from nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
> didn't boot for me)
>
> Rename from "Mach_Kernel" to "Mach Kernel" and place in the Extensions
> folder.
>
> 3. Go to Control Panels and open MkLinux window, select Custom
> which opens lilo.conf
>
> and make sure it reads as follows:
> # RAMDisk Debian Installer
> rootdev=/dev/ram
>
> (It doesn't matter what else is in the file as long as every other
> line starts with "# ")
>
> Save the file and exit
>
> 6. Restart your machine
>
> 7. When Apple MkLinux Booter comes up, press "MkLinux" button
> which should if all has gone according to plan it will take you to
> the woody installation system.
>
> Stage2: Installing woody
>
> Choose the following from the menus:
>
> 1. Configure the Keyboard
> 2. Initialise and Activate a Swap Partition
> 3. Initialise a Linux Partition (more than once if you have
> multiple partitions)
>
> The partition set I used on /dev/sda0 was:
>
> 6 / 80M
> 7 swap 80 M
> 8 swap 80 M
> 9. /usr 1G
> 10 /var 3G
> 11. /tmp 100M
> 12. /home 500M
> 13. free 1.2G
>
> 4. Install Operating System Kernel and Modules
> Select Installation medium: network
> The installer configures your network configuration automatically
> using DHCP or BOOTP if you accept the defaults.
> It will then download from the default URL:
> powermac/images-1.44/rescue.bin
> powermac/drivers.tgz
>
> 5. Install the Base System
> Select Installation medium: network
> It will then download from the default URL:
> base2_2.tgz
>
> 6. Configure the Base System
> Choose and configure your time zone
>
> 7. Your can't "Make a Boot Floppy: for a Nubus Mac so -
> Reboot the System into MacOS. Go to Control Panels and open MkLinux
> window, select Custom which opens lilo.conf
>
> Comment out with "#" the second line below:
> # RAMDisk Debian Installer
> rootdev=/dev/ram
>
> and add:
>
> # boot from root partition on scsi hard drive
> rootdev=/dev/sda6
>
> (sda6 is the root partion initialised in 3. above)
>
> Save the file and exit
>
> 8. Reboot into "MkLinux" (which is in fact Debian)
>
> Which takes you to Debian System Configuration
>
> Accept the defaults and enter a password for root and set up a user
> with password.
>
> When you get to Apt Configuration choose http and select a mirror site
>
> Apt will then install and configure the woody packages. Choose
> "simple" install
>
> After getting the list of packages required it will tell you how much
> is being downloaded and ask if you want to continue; the default is Y
>
> 9. After the packages download you will be taken to Configuring Debconf.
> Accept the defaults
>
> Configuring Locales: choose a locale (I chose cy_GB ISO-8859-15)
> choose "C" as your default system environment
>
> Configuring Setserial choose "kernel"
>
> It will then continue unpacking, installing and configuring packages.
> When asked if you want to Restart Services, accept the default Y
>
> Allow "update-passwd" Y
>
> Configuring Console-common choose "Keep kernel keymap"
>
> Always accept the maintainer's configuration setup
>
> When asked if you want a QUIK boot block type N [Return]
>
> After loading a few more packages you will get a login prompt with the
> heading:
>
> Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 debian tty
> Your debian version is in "/etc/debian_version"
>
> You can check that everything has installed correctly by typing:
> apt-get dist-upgrade (which will offer to install any missing packages)
>
> 10. You now have a base system to which you can add your choice of
> packages to tailor woody to fit your needs using "dselect" . Before
> doing so read the docs at:
> http://www.debian.org/release/woody/powerpc/ch-main.en.html
>
> Congratulations you've installed Woody on your Nubus PC.
>
> I wouldn't have attempted this without the network and ADSL. I
> wouldn't have been successful without the invaluable support of
> everyone at:
> debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
> Go read their archives for the last couple of months:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/
> By subscribing to the list, I've read every posting since the
> beginning of this year and although much of it was beyond my
> knowledge, I have gleaned a great deal of help with the install and
> some understanding of how Linux works.
>
> If you're upgrading from potato there are some issues you need to be
> aware of - see:
> http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes (important information
> regarding key mapping - ignore this at your peril!)
> http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/powerpc/release-notes/ch-upgrading
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200202/
> msg01868.html
>
> For general Linux help, try:
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/howtos.html
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/
> http://www.linuxpowered.com/
> http://www.unixgeeks.org/
>
>
> >
> >i was able to get X running on a 7100 in the past, however, it was using
> >Mklinux DR2... a little outdated by today's standards... but i will try
> and
> >get it working on one of my machines here, and then post the config file.
>
> I confess that my lack of progress on X is because other stuff has
> got in the way and my attempts, immediately after installing woody,
> were characterised by frustration and slow progress. So a short-cut
> solution would be much appreciated but please be aware my technical
> knowledge is limited ;-)
>
> >it is always nice to see these old macs being put to use-- they are great
> >machines for low volume servers and the like. heck, my own personal web
> site
> >is hosted on an LC 475! nothing fancy, but it does the job!
>
> It does ;-)
>
> Regards
>
> Clive
>
>
>
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