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Re: 8500 won't boot if unused drive disconnected



(Chris Tillman replies that I can't boot because the termination is missing when I remove the drive on the internal bus at ID 0).

That makes the most sense to me. What has me perplexed is that I normally boot from an external drive, and the Mac doesn't appear to even try to boot unless the drive that holds the terminator on the internal bus is present.

I found terminators that go on internal 50-pin ribbon cables. I've ordered various whacky SCSI stuff from these people before and they're pretty good:

http://www.cablemakers.com/scsterm.htm

(scroll down the page to Internal SCSI Terminators, the table marked SCSI 1 & 2 terminators). There's lots of helpful SCSI information on their pages.

They have two available, the SCST-5520, and the SCST-5600 which is a pass-thru terminator. The first is $17.35 and the pass-thrue is $19.20. I ordered the pass-thru. 2-day shipping is $11 to me in Maine.

Note that my new drive won't go on the existing internal bus (the one with the MESH controller, that came built in with the Mac) so I can't use that for the termination. I just got an Adaptec 29160 today to use for the new drive. I also got my first attempt at the new drive, a Quantum Atlas 10k III, but it doesn't work and I have to get it replaced :-(.

(There's two kinds of 29160's for the Mac, the 29160 and the 29160N. The "N" has a single-ended SCSI connector externally, the 29160 with no "N" has an Ultra160 connector. My Mac comes built in with on old-fashioned scsi external connector, and I thought it would be useful to eventually connect Ultra160 drives externally, so I got the 29160. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the Mac and PC 29160's is the firmware - I have seen some mention on the web of someone flashing a PC 39160 (a 2-bus adapter) with Mac firmware and having it work).

Mike
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