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Re: GNU/Linux, NetBSD and Mac OS X



On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 11:07:15PM -0700, Matt Brubeck wrote:
> 
> This page has fairly detailed explanation, and I'm sure the NetBSD
> developers will be happy to fill you in on any more details:
> 
> <http://netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#boot-support>
> 
> [This FAQ also has a very excellent OF reference and tutorial,
>  worth checking out.]

ill do that.

> > do they still require that the disk use msdos partition tables?
> 
> Only on oldworld machines. On machines with OF version 2.4 or 3, it can
> boot from MacOS formatted disks with HFS partitions, ala yaboot.
> OF 3 can even boot the kernel directly, with no extra bootloader.

interesting.  

> > it would be quite easy for me to add a netbsd= option to the ybin boot
> > menu, i just need more info on what file i need to execute.
> 
> Excellent!  Hopefully this will give you a start.
> 
> It would also be a service to NetBSD/macppc if someone could port ybin to
> NetBSD, for configuring and installing the kernel and bootstrap files.

i would like to do that, i was going to when i noticed openbsd
supported powerpc, but like i said it saw my scsi card said `wtf is
that!' and commited sukupu...

> On multi-boot systems a single HFS-formatted bootstrap volume could be
> used for both the NetBSD kernel and yaboot. Might it be possible to port
> ofpath also?

yes i see now reason why {net,open}BSD cannot use the same 800K
Apple_Bootstrap partition.  

porting ofpath is another matter...  it completely depends on linux'
/proc/device-tree and some other linux specific /proc cruft.  if *bsd
exports most of the same information into /kern (they correctly
believe that /proc is for processes, not a dumping ground for random
shi*)

ybin would be trivial to port to BSD, i already take great efforts to
not depend on any GNUisms and stick to straight posix.  

i don't suppose anyone would be willing to send me a current netbsd
CD? assuming it supports blue g3s with an adaptec 2930CU ?  my
internet connection consists of some tin cans and string so it takes
quite a long time to download little things like OSes...

> If no one has picked up these ideas in a few months (when I have access to
> my newworld machine again), I'll give it a try.

i would like to get ybin ported, ofpath would be nice, but
significantly harder (it would probably have to be 100% rewritten,
that is assuming you can get access to the device-tree from BSD at all) 

right now i am finishing up yabootconfig...

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/

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