Re: QUIK on the 7200
Ethan Benson <erbenson@alaska.net> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 10:50:40AM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> > Uh, mine's been stable for quite some time. Your attitude seems to have been
> > influenced by Apple's practice of planned obsolescence- no reason to support
> > perfectly good oldworlds when we can force the masses to buy new ones! Might
> > as well scrap the whole m68k Debian distro, and its dirs in the kernel source,
> > right?
>
> not at all, my point is that oldworld powermacs are worthless for
> anything more important then occasional tinkering to blow time.
Mine makes a fine mail server/firewall. In the two years it's been
running linux, it's crashed *once* from a hardware failure (disk going
bad). The only other downtime was during a blackout. It sits
underneath my desk, so I can get to it during those rare occasions
that I can't ssh in, which has really been only during clean installs.
> i don't find a machine that requires dozens of fscking attempts to
> build a working kernel for suitable for anything important, they are
> nearly impossible to remotely administer given the 99% chance the damn
> thing won't boot if you replace a kernel. i don't know about you but
> i have better things to do then run around to the console of servers
> to fsck with boot loaders. and if the machine is security critical
> (has users etc) i better damn well be able to upgrade the kernel *now*
> and not have to screw with it for days, weeks, monthes to get it
> working (if ever)
To replace the kernel you mount the macos partition, rename the old
kernel and replace it with the new one. Sure, it takes an extra 15-30
seconds to reboot, but I don't change the kernel that often, so it's
not really a big deal for me.
> my opinion is this:
>
> for anything remotely important these machines are nothing but
> trouble.
It's only a problem if you insist using OF/Quik.
>
> if all your interested in is a tinkering machine they are fine. so
> long as you don't mind mandatory macos.
>
> if you want a macos free system get something other then a oldworld
> powermac. an old intel box a sparc will be much better choices for
> that.
Why you would buy *any* mac if you didn't want to run macos is a
mystery to me. But a lot of people have these machines lying around
when they could be doing useful work. At least that's why *I'm* on
this list.
Best wishes,
cbb
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