All I notice BenH's site http://ppclinux.apple.com/~benh/ is still unavailable. Are there any other sites with similar information and such available? The input layer for example is supposedly documented on there (as well as franz sirl's page) and other things of note are there also it seems. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh/ Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane? No Is it a small blue banana? YES