Re: Continuing Annoyances...
>>>>> "MD" == Michel Dänzer <michdaen@iiic.ethz.ch> writes:
>>>>> "HK" == Hartmut Koptein
HK> BTW: add this to your script:
HK> # fbset --all 1024x768-75 ${FBSET} -a -x -depth 16 1152x864-80
HK>
HK> /etc/init.d/gpm restart
HK>
HK> echo "done."
Me> I think Hartmut meant gdm here, rather than gpm (please
Me> correct me if I'm wrong!).
MD> He did mean gpm. This is needed because gpm doesn't notice
MD> changes of the console window size, so if you e.g. change to a
MD> bigger resolution, you can't move the mouse pointer beyond the
MD> former size.
Aha. Okay, done. (Probably doesn't really matter, since I don't
use the console that much, but it's best to have everything
working as well as possible.)
MD> The depth in X is independent from the one in console (at
MD> least if the fbdev can change modes, which seems to be the
MD> case with yours). Have you tried depth 8 in console? This is
MD> recommended, as the console has only 16 colors anyway.
I tried this, and, yes, the cursor magically appears again!
Am I right in thinking that you're saying I should set the depth
using fbset to some lower resolution (namely 8) and then set the
depth in XF86Config to 16 or 32? Or am I missing something?
MD> As your fbdev seems to support mode changes, you can use
MD> custom modes in your XF86Config. fbset -x gives you a mode
MD> definition which you can insert directly into that file.
Me> Aha. That's neat. I'll try that and see if it helps.
MD> It would make X resolution independent from console resolution
MD> as well.
Okay. I've done this, but I'm not at all convinced it works. In
fact, I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Chances are excellent that my
XF86Config file is majorly messed up -- the last time I did one,
it was on Intel, and I had utilities to the work for me. This
time, I think we ended up raiding the file from LinuxPPC (which I
had installed before I installed Debian).
So, after extensive testing, I can't see how this is supposed to
work. Theoretically you can define modes that the X server will
read and use to configure itself. Any modes I set up (using fbset
to change the mode, and then fbset -x to generate the XF86Config
entry) are rejected by the X server. That means that the *only*
way I can set the X server modes is by changing the setting with
fbset first.
Here's my /etc/X11/XF86Config file. Please feel free to offer
suggestions on actually getting this stuff to work properly -- it
would be very nice to be able to have usable VTs *and* X at the
same time.
# File generated by XConfigurator.
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************
Section "Files"
# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
# FontPath "unix/:-1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts/"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************
Section "ServerFlags"
# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Keyboard"
Protocol "Standard"
# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#Protocol "Xqueue"
AutoRepeat 500 5
# Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be
# required when using pre-R6 clients
#ServerNumLock
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#Xleds 1 2 3
#To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
#RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:
LeftAlt Meta
RightAlt Meta
ScrollLock Compose
RightCtl Control
# To enable the XKEYBOARD extension, comment XkbDisable.
XkbDisable
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# XkbModel "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# XkbModel "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# XkbLayout "de"
# or:
# XkbLayout "de"
# XkbVariant "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps"
# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
# XkbRules "xfree86"
# XkbModel "pc101"
# XkbLayout "us"
# XkbVariant ""
# XkbOptions ""
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Pointer"
# Protocol "ThinkingMousePS/2"
Protocol "BusMouse"
Device "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.
# Protocol "Xqueue"
# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice
# BaudRate 9600
# SampleRate 150
# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
# Emulate3Buttons
# Emulate3Timeout 50
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
# ChordMiddle
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "PDL Pivot 1700"
VendorName "Portrait Display Labs"
ModelName "Pivot 1700"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 30.0-65.0
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 50.0-90.0
# Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.
# These two are equivalent
# ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace
# Mode "1024x768i"
# DotClock 45
# HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
# VTimings 768 776 784 817
# Flags "Interlace"
# EndMode
# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.
# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450
# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
# ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace
# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync
# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521
# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
# ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
# Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x480" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync
# ModeLine "1152x864" 65 1152 1168 1384 1480 864 865 875 985 Interlace
# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
# Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
# Modeline "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
# Modeline "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace
# 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
# Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
# 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908
# 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
# 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1152x864" 135 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908
# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1024x768" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1600x1200" 189 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1152x864" 137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536 864 866 885 902 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1600x1200" 220 1600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
# Modeline "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696 1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync
# 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync
# ModeLine "1800X1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync
# ModeLine "1800X1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
# Modeline "512x384" 20.160 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync
# 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
# Modeline "512x384" 22 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync
# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.
# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
# Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
# Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
# Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
# ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
# Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
# Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
# ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
# Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
# Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
# Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan
# Apple iMac modes
# Modeline "1024x768" 78.525 1024 1049 1145 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
# Modeline "800x600" 62.357 800 821 901 1040 600 601 604 632 +hsync +vsync
# Modeline "640x480" 49.886 640 661 725 832 480 481 484 514 +hsync +vsync
# Apple monitors tend to do 832x624
# Modeline "832x624" 57 832 876 940 1152 624 625 628 667 -hsync -vsync
# Apple PowerBook G3
# Modeline "800x600" 100 800 816 824 840 600 616 624 640 -hsync -vsync
### Original working (?) Mode, probably from LinuxPPC
# Mode "1024x768"
# # D: 64.998 MHz, H: 48.362 kHz, V: 60.002 Hz
# DotClock 64.999
# HTimings 1024 1064 1200 1344
# VTimings 768 771 777 806
# Flags "-HSync" "-VSync"
# EndMode
### Generated by fbset -x after running
### fbset -a -depth 16 1024x768-100
Mode "1024x768"
# D: 78.746 MHz, H: 60.020 kHz, V: 75.025 Hz
DotClock 78.747
HTimings 1024 1056 1152 1312
VTimings 768 769 772 800
Flags "+HSync" "+VSync"
EndMode
### Generated by fbset -x after running
# fbset -a -depth 16 1152x864-80
Mode "1152x870"
# D: 100.000 MHz, H: 68.681 kHz, V: 75.062 Hz
DotClock 100.001
HTimings 1152 1200 1328 1456
VTimings 870 873 876 915
Flags "+HSync" "+VSync"
EndMode
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Chipset "generic"
# VideoRam 256
# Clocks 25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by Xconfigurator:
Section "Device"
Identifier "platinum"
VendorName "PowerComputing"
BoardName "Unknown"
VideoRam 4096
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
Section "Screen"
Driver "FBDev"
Device "platinum"
Monitor "PDL Pivot 1700"
SubSection "Display"
Modes "default"
Depth 16
EndSubSection
# SubSection "Display"
# Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "default"
# Depth 8
# EndSubSection
# SubSection "Display"
# Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "default"
# Depth 16
# ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 1152 870
# EndSubSection
# SubSection "Display"
# Modes "1152x870" "1024x768" "default"
# Depth 32
# EndSubSection
EndSection
### Original Screen section from LinuxPPC
#Section "Screen"
# Driver "fbdev"
# Device "platinum"
# Monitor "PDL Pivot 1700"
# Subsection "Display"
# Depth 32
# Modes "default"
# ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 1024 768
# EndSubsection
#EndSection
MD> I also have problems with GNOME taking ages to start up, I
MD> seem to have tracked it down to a DNS lookup, which bind
MD> blocks for quite some time when the network is down. I already
MD> suspected esd, but I was not sure. Hope this helps anyone to
MD> figure out the real problem.
I can tell you that upgrading esd worked completely. Whether esd
itself was at fault, or whether it (esd) was making some query
that was blocked and eventually timed out, I can't say, but that
would fit the behavior I was seeing.
Thanks,
C.
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