Le vendredi, 6 septembre 2019, 11.32:06 h CEST Bill Allombert a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 09:17:59AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Le mercredi, 4 septembre 2019, 23.53:06 h CEST Bill Allombert a écrit :
> > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 11:04:57PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > > > * Most decisions are not just technical decisions, in many/most
> > > > > cases
> > > > >
> > > > > the decisions have answers that are all correct, but it just
> > > > > depends
> > > > > on the weight of specific trade-offs. How those are weighted
> > > > > depends
> > > > > heavily on each individual. This also seems rather unfair, as
> > > > > it's
> > > > > taking the natural and expected biases of a small set of people
> > > > > in
> > > > > the project and forcing them into the entire project.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly, if the answers are all correct and we've been going around
> > > > in
> > > > circles since like forever, then having a small team decide that one
> > > > of
> > > > these correct answers is now the preferred one and we're going with it
> > > > (after listening to all the arguments) hardly seems unfair to me.
> > >
> > > But then it become a steering committee and not a technical commitee.
> >
> > Actually, it seems that the Technical Committee has kinda always been
> > doing
> > both of these things: arbitration, and steering.
>
> The way the TC members are selected is not compatible with taking the role
> of a steering committee (which need to be properly elected rather than
> self-selected).
Agreed. For me, that's also why "steering" decisions have always been hard:
hard because handed to the TC at a late stage, as last resort; hard decisions
to take for the TC, with high stakes and emotions, etc. I feel it's also the
main reason behind the refusal to _be_ the Roadmap Team from the TC.
> (To avoid misunderstanding, I am not in favor of Debian getting a
> steering committee. The steering should come from the DPL, who is
> elected)
It seems that this is what is intended by the current constitution. But we
should really discuss what we need; and I'm not convinced that a steering
group designated by an elected DPL [delegate] is that much better than a self-
selected group vetted by the elected DPL [TC]. If we do give powers to a
steering group, we could (and I argue we probably should) make it a body of
elected individuals with fixed terms (renewability, grace periods, term
overlaps, etc are important details of course).
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