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Bug#891216: Requre d-devel consultation for epoch bump [and 2 more messages]



Hello,

On Fri, May 25 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:

> When we get to tidying this up, the epoch-ignoring new file name
> uniqueness section could probably do with a cross-reference.

Do you mean 3.2.2?

> I did decide to make the text discouraging epochs a subsection.

This is good.  I'm also glad you included the point that epochs could
still be used for recovering from very serious mistakes.

On Fri, May 25 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:

> diff --git a/policy/ch-controlfields.rst b/policy/ch-controlfields.rst
> index 0771346..166cdd8 100644
> --- a/policy/ch-controlfields.rst
> +++ b/policy/ch-controlfields.rst
> @@ -552,9 +552,10 @@ The three components here are:
>      omitted, in which case zero is assumed. If it is omitted then the
>      ``upstream_version`` may not contain any colons.
>
> -    It is provided to allow mistakes in the version numbers of older
> -    versions of a package, and also a package's previous version
> -    numbering schemes, to be left behind.
> +    Epochs can help when the upstream version numbering scheme
> +    changes, but they must be used with care.  You should not change
> +    the epoch, even in experimental, without getting consensus on
> +    debian-devel first.
>
>  ``upstream_version``
>      This is the main part of the version number. It is usually the
> @@ -622,9 +623,23 @@ These two steps (comparing and removing initial non-digit strings and
>  initial digit strings) are repeated until a difference is found or both
>  strings are exhausted.
>
> -Note that the purpose of epochs is to allow us to leave behind mistakes
> -in version numbering, and to cope with situations where the version
> -numbering scheme changes. It is *not* intended to cope with version
> +Epochs should be used sparingly
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> +
> +Note that the purpose of epochs is to cope with situations where the
> +upstream version numbering scheme changes and to allow us to leave
> +behind serious mistakes.
> +If you think that increasing the epoch is the right solution,
> +you should consult debian-devel and get consensus before doing so
> +(even in experimental).
> +
> +Epochs should not be used when a package needs to be rolled back.
> +In that case, use the ``+really`` convention: for example, if you
> +uploaded ``2.3-3`` and now you need to go backwards to upstream 2.2,
> +call your reverting upload something like ``2.3+really2.2-1``.
> +Eventually, when we upload upstream 2.4, the +really part can go away.
> +
> +Epochs are also not intended to cope with version
>  numbers containing strings of letters which the package management
>  system cannot interpret (such as ``ALPHA`` or ``pre-``), or with silly
>  orderings.  [#]_

Seconded -- thank you for a nice patch.

I'm mildly distressed that we have two patches that I am hoping to get
into the next release of Policy that add subsubsubsections (i.e. the
section number contains three periods) but I think it's the right thing
to do in both cases.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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