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Bug#779506: marked as done (per-protocol virtual packages for boardgame AI engines and GUI)



Your message dated Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:44:51 -0700
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and subject line Closing inactive Policy bugs
has caused the Debian Bug report #779506,
regarding per-protocol virtual packages for boardgame AI engines and GUI
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Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist

Following the short discussion starting at [1], I'm submitting the
following list of virtual packages, to facilitate the declaration of
protocol compatibility between boardgame AI engines, boardgame GUI's
and protocol adapters:

* cecp-game-engine
* cecp-game-ui
* uci-game-engine
* uci-game-ui
* xshogi-game-engine
* xshogi-game-ui
* gtp2-game-engine
* gtp2-game-ui

As explained in the discussion, there are other protocols in use, but
used only by one pair of packages each, so we may want to defer
addition of those protocols until new packages using them arrive.

Here is an example use of such virtual packages, which makes use of
the rarely used protocols:

| Engines would declare eg:
|  Package: gpsshogi
|  Provides: csa-game-engine, usi-game-engine
|  Recommends: $PREFERED_UI | csa-game-ui | usi-game-ui
| 
| And GUIs would similarly declare eg:
|  Package: XBoard
|  Provides: cecp-game-ui
|  Recommends: $PREFERED_ENGINE | cecp-game-engine
| 
| And adaptors:
|  Package: uci2wb
|  Provides: cecp-game-engine, uci-game-ui, usi-game-ui, ucci-game-ui
|  Recommends: $PREFERED_UI | cecp-game-ui,
|              $PREFERED_ENGINE | uci-game-engine | usi-game-engine | ucci-game-engine

If we only standardize the above list, the example becomes as follow,
which does not look too bad:

| Engines would declare eg:
|  Package: gpsshogi
|  Recommends: uci2wb
| 
| And GUIs would similarly declare eg:
|  Package: XBoard
|  Provides: cecp-game-ui
|  Recommends: $PREFERED_ENGINE | cecp-game-engine
| 
| And adaptors:
|  Package: uci2wb
|  Provides: cecp-game-engine, uci-game-ui
|  Recommends: $PREFERED_UI | cecp-game-ui,
|              gpsshogi | eleeye


[1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-games-devel/2015-February/033607.html


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control: user debian-policy@packages.debian.org
control: usertag -1 +obsolete
control: tag -1 +wontfix

Russ Allbery and I did a round of in-person bug triage at DebConf17 and
we are closing this bug as inactive.

The reasons for closing fall into the following categories, from most
frequent to least frequent:

- issue is appropriate for Policy, there is a consensus on how to fix
  the problem, but preparing the patch is very time-consuming and no-one
  has volunteered to do it, and we do not judge the issue to be
  important enough to keep an open bug around;

- issue is appropriate for Policy but there does not yet exist a
  consensus on what should change, and no recent discussion.  A fresh
  discussion might allow us to reach consensus, and the messages in the
  old bug are unlikely to help very much; or

- issue is not appropriate for Policy.

If you feel this bug is still relevant and want to restart the
discussion, you can re-open the bug.  However, please consider instead
opening a new bug with a message that summarises and condenses the
previous discussion, updates the report for the current state of Debian,
and makes clear exactly what you think should change.

A lot of these old bugs have long side tangents and numerous messages,
and that old discussion is not necessarily helpful for figuring out what
Debian Policy should say today.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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