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Bug#775318: marked as done (debian-policy: Using /srv instead of /var/lib for served user-level data)



Your message dated Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:44:51 -0700
with message-id <87o9rlx51o.fsf@iris.silentflame.com>
and subject line Closing inactive Policy bugs
has caused the Debian Bug report #775318,
regarding debian-policy: Using /srv instead of /var/lib for served user-level data
to be marked as done.

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Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

I wanted to separate user-level data (for special RAID, backups, encryption and such) from system data on my machine, so I targeted /home and /srv. I found out that data managed by system services are being stored in /var/lib/<packagename> when I expected them to be in /srv and this doesn't really make sense to me. I also wanted to limit the size of the /var partition to around 4GB, but I can't
practically do this when, for example, ownCloud is managing user's data in
/var/lib/owncloud. Users would then see a file storage limit of whatever space
there was left in /var. Dokuwiki, mediawiki, and I believe gitweb are other
examples.

I don't think this is just a personal preference on my part, since the FHS
doesn't seem to describe this kind of use for /var while /srv makes more sense
/var/lib --
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#VARLIBVARIABLESTATEINFORMATION
/srv --
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM

I wanted to suggest a change to the policy that user-level data managed by
system-services should be stored in /srv (instead of /var/ or something in
/usr/share/).

I'd be grateful for your consideration of this proposal.
Thanks and regards,
Afif

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.8
  APT prefers stable-updates
APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ar_SA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ar_SA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

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control: user debian-policy@packages.debian.org
control: usertag -1 +obsolete
control: tag -1 +wontfix

Russ Allbery and I did a round of in-person bug triage at DebConf17 and
we are closing this bug as inactive.

The reasons for closing fall into the following categories, from most
frequent to least frequent:

- issue is appropriate for Policy, there is a consensus on how to fix
  the problem, but preparing the patch is very time-consuming and no-one
  has volunteered to do it, and we do not judge the issue to be
  important enough to keep an open bug around;

- issue is appropriate for Policy but there does not yet exist a
  consensus on what should change, and no recent discussion.  A fresh
  discussion might allow us to reach consensus, and the messages in the
  old bug are unlikely to help very much; or

- issue is not appropriate for Policy.

If you feel this bug is still relevant and want to restart the
discussion, you can re-open the bug.  However, please consider instead
opening a new bug with a message that summarises and condenses the
previous discussion, updates the report for the current state of Debian,
and makes clear exactly what you think should change.

A lot of these old bugs have long side tangents and numerous messages,
and that old discussion is not necessarily helpful for figuring out what
Debian Policy should say today.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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