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Bug#707851: debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files



Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> writes:
> Le dimanche 12 mai 2013 à 08:03 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : 

>> I'm not sure that "mostly called from the terminal" is quite the right
>> way of phrasing the point, but I'm not sure what the right way of
>> handling it is.  My feeling is that things that make sense as
>> applications (irssi, top) should be included in the menu, but things
>> that are really just command-line utilities (other shells, telnet these
>> days) probably shouldn't.  I'm not sure where ncftp, for example, falls
>> in that list, but I think both units and bc would ideally appear in the
>> menu.

> How about simply “not useful as a standalone application”?

That sounds great to me.

>> This is a relatively high bar if the icon has to be custom for that
>> application, since most maintainers aren't going to have the skills to
>> make icons.  Is it okay to just pick some reasonable icon from, say,
>> the highcolor set?

> We should even encourage using them. Using an icon from an icon theme
> ensures several sizes can be available, for example. And it ensures it
> can be overriden by another theme.

Oh, excellent, okay.  We should say that explicitly, then.  That will make
things much easier when adding more desktop files.

> We could use the debian-desktop mailing list. I think there is at least
> one person from each of the interested teams who reads it.

That sounds great.

>> This looks great as an addition to that section.  I think we should
>> keep the current background information (the definition of MIME and the
>> discussion of what it's used for), though, and at least for right now
>> we should probably also keep the mailcap instructions, since I'm fairly
>> sure they're still used by very widely used programs like mutt and the
>> Emacs mail clients.

> The latest mime-support in unstable makes use of desktop files. So while
> for menu it still makes sense to ship legacy menu files, for MIME it is
> not necessary anymore.

Oh!  Right, I remember that now; sorry about forgetting the status of that
migration.  Indeed, that means there's probably no need to say anything at
all, unless we still need to mention it in passing in case someone has a
need for the type of mailcap file that can't be represented by desktop
files (if there even are any these days).

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>


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