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Bug#522776: debian-policy: mandate existence of a standardised UTF-8 locale

On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 01:37:24AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Russ Allbery, le Thu 02 Sep 2010 16:24:56 -0700, a écrit :
> > Generally what that means is that someone needs to digest the discussion
> > in the thread
> Well, it's mostly
> - some people saying "it's useless",
> - while other people saying "I need it",
> and also
> - "en_US.UTF-8 is just fine" vs.
> - "en_US.UTF-8 sucks, we really need C.UTF-8 instead"
> without any convergence.

I think reading back through the entire log, people who were initially
rather opposed to the proposal did come around once they appreciated
exactly what the changes would be, and why they were needed.  The
conversation was mostly constructive bar some initial misunderstandings
about what the changes actually meant--it did flesh out some of the
issues WRT standards conformance and what might break if the default
was changed, but this bug isn't really about the default, it's about
having a standard UTF-8 locale available.

Andrew Macmillan's message in
is a rather good look at a summary of the issues and the
"big picture" behind the motives for changing.

Introducing a C.UTF-8 is a trivial change to make and does not
impact any existing software.  It doesn't mandate a specific
national locale, nor does it alter the existing C locale.  To quote:

"The proposal, at this stage is only that the C.UTF-8 locale is
*installed* and *available* by default.  Not that it *be* the default,
but that it *be there* as a default. People will naturally continue to
be free to uninstall it, or to leave their locale to 'C'."

There were no objections to having a UTF-8 locale installed and
available by default, just to it *being* the default.  Taking this
first small step is IMO important to do, preferably for squeeze if
possible.  Since it's a tiny one-liner change, this should be no
trouble in getting this done.


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