On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 01:37:24AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Russ Allbery, le Thu 02 Sep 2010 16:24:56 -0700, a écrit : > > Generally what that means is that someone needs to digest the discussion > > in the thread > > Well, it's mostly > > - some people saying "it's useless", > - while other people saying "I need it", > > and also > > - "en_US.UTF-8 is just fine" vs. > - "en_US.UTF-8 sucks, we really need C.UTF-8 instead" > > without any convergence. I think reading back through the entire log, people who were initially rather opposed to the proposal did come around once they appreciated exactly what the changes would be, and why they were needed. The conversation was mostly constructive bar some initial misunderstandings about what the changes actually meant--it did flesh out some of the issues WRT standards conformance and what might break if the default was changed, but this bug isn't really about the default, it's about having a standard UTF-8 locale available. Andrew Macmillan's message in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522776#167 is a rather good look at a summary of the issues and the "big picture" behind the motives for changing. Introducing a C.UTF-8 is a trivial change to make and does not impact any existing software. It doesn't mandate a specific national locale, nor does it alter the existing C locale. To quote: "The proposal, at this stage is only that the C.UTF-8 locale is *installed* and *available* by default. Not that it *be* the default, but that it *be there* as a default. People will naturally continue to be free to uninstall it, or to leave their locale to 'C'." There were no objections to having a UTF-8 locale installed and available by default, just to it *being* the default. Taking this first small step is IMO important to do, preferably for squeeze if possible. Since it's a tiny one-liner change, this should be no trouble in getting this done. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `- GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail.
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