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Re: Bug#484656: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu



On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 04:00:30 -0400, Daniel Dickinson <cshore@fionavar.ca> said: 

> Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and
> cover most users of desktops in debian.

> They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu.

> xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy.

> This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug #478954 and
>> 478916).

        Unfortunately, this means that policy is not the best place to
 do this; since policy should not create standards that no one is
 following, and we should not beat fellow developers into submissi9on
 using policy.

> The main menu should either be the debian-menu (instead of having the
> debian as a secondary menu, available from the desktop menu system,
> but as a separate submen) or all packages which are supposed to have
> menu entires should also be required to supply .desktop files.

> Having a dual-menu scheme in policy is ugly.

> So is having the main menu, where users, especially new users, expect
> to find all their programs not be canonical.  Having a second
> canonical menu means the programs are at least available but you have
> to know to look there when you can't find it in the main menu, and
> looking in two places to find a program is a pain.  You could always
> look in the debian menu, but then why have the main menu?

        This should go into a general discussion on devel, if we need
 project wide agreement on the issue, and perhaps to the tech ctte for
 resolution of the dispute, and once the dispute is resolved and things
 are implemented, then we move to making this a policy.

        manoj

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