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Bug#172436: Is it OK for the new policy wording to be a SHOULD?



On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 03:08:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> > >         This would mean that every program that does not already follow
> > >  this directive would instantly turn buggy (conventionally, a violation
> > >  of a SHOULD directive is a normal bug)
> > 
> > IMO that's fine.  They're not RC bugs, just things which should be
> > fixed.
> 
> Bas, it seems you missed the discussion about the fact that Gnome has
> its own way of defining the user's preferred browser.  So no, it's not
> clear that this is something that needs to be fixed at the Debian level.

I did indeed miss the discussion, sorry about that and thanks for
pointing me at it.  However, I did think of it myself.  And as I wrote,
I think it's confusing to have different ways of setting a preferred
browser which will then sometimes work.  If the user just uses one of
them, it should work everywhere.  So if GNOME is used to set the default
browser there, that setting should also be used for non-GNOME programs.
And if some other method is used (update-alternatives --config for
example), that should also be followed by GNOME.

It's acceptable IMO that strange things happen when the user uses both
systems and sets them to different values.  But using only one should
have a system-wide effect IMO.

> In any case I would either change the should in may or simply explain that
> applications should use the user's preferred browser either by reusing
> the one configured in the graphical desktop or use sensible-browser so
> that they respect the user's choice indicated in BROWSER.

Ok, I don't mind doing it differently, as long as the user experience is
right.

> > A transition in the form of reporting some bugs and fixing them seems
> > fine to me. :-)
> 
> Not if it includes packages which do not respect BROWSER but that do
> respect something similar in spirit coming from the graphical desktops.

"Standards are wonderful!  Everybody should have their own!"

No, thanks.  Let's please not allow programs to say "I'll ignore your
system-wide setting because I use some other system-wide setting
instead".  There should be only one default browser on a system.

Thanks,
Bas

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