Re: Bug#19920: Packages Optional, should be Extra
Hi,
In the sprit of submitting bugs that affect a large number of
packages, this should be
a) discussed on the mailing list,
b) have bugs filed against all packages so that peole may edit the
control files.
I definitely think this should not be acted on out of hand.
Also, I think it is a bad idea to file bugs based on "An old
version I tried was buggy, I have not seen the new versions, but let
us act on the old buggy behaviour anyway.". Try Arena before you file
a bug.
manoj
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
Ian> Package: ftp.debian.org Version: 1998-03-18 18:48:52 +0000
Ian> It is my opinion that the following Optional packages should be
Ian> extra, because they are only useful to people with special
Ian> requirements or hardware. Perhaps some discussion needs to be
Ian> had with the package maintainers.
Ian> Package: adbbs Description: ad! BBS. A perl based bbs or easy
Ian> menu system.
Ian> Package: apache-dev Description: Apache webserver development kit
Ian> Package: apcalc-dev Description: Library for arbitrary precision
Ian> arithmetic
Ian> Package: apple2 Description: Apple ][ Emulator (because it needs
Ian> the Apple ROMs which can only be legally used if you own a Mac.)
Ian> Package: arena Description: an HTML 3.0 compliant WWW browser for
Ian> X (because it is very buggy, at least last time I used it.
Ian> Perhaps it is better now)
Ian> Package: bash-builtins Description: Bash loadable builtins -
Ian> headers & examples
Ian> Package: amanda-client Description: Advanced Maryland Automatic
Ian> Network Disk Archiver (Client)
Ian> Package: amanda-server Description: Advanced Maryland Automatic
Ian> Network Disk Archiver (Server)
Ian> Package: browser-history Depends: libc6, xlib6g (>= 3.3-5)
Ian> (Appears just to support Netscape, but not clear. Maybe it
Ian> should be in contrib)
Ian> Package: bulkmail Description: Speed up delivery of e-mail to
Ian> large numbers of recipients.
Ian> Package: camediaplay Description: Still Camera Digital Interface
Ian> (You need a camera.)
Ian> Package: cern-httpd Description: The CERN HTTP (World-Wide Web)
Ian> server (We should only install one webserver by `default' even in
Ian> a large system, and it should be apache.)
Ian> Package: boa Description: Lightweight and High Performance
Ian> WebServer (We should only install one webserver by `default' even
Ian> in a large system, and it should be apache.)
Ian> Package: dhttpd Description: Minimal secure webserver. No cgi-bin
Ian> support! (We should only install one webserver by `default' even
Ian> in a large system, and it should be apache.)
Ian> Package: ncsa Description: Small featureless NCSA Webserver (We
Ian> should only install one webserver by `default' even in a large
Ian> system, and it should be apache.)
Ian> Package: wn Description: Secure and efficient http server with
Ian> advanced features. (We should only install one webserver by
Ian> `default' even in a large system, and it should be apache.)
Ian> Package: exim Description: Exim Mailer Conflicts:
Ian> mail-transport-agent (But Smail is Important.)
Ian> Package: exim-doc Description: Exim MTA info documentation
Ian> Package: eximon Description: X-windows monitor for the exim mail
Ian> transport agent.
Ian> Package: cfingerd Description: Configurable and secure finger
Ian> daemon (This daemon is not so secure; its documentation claims
Ian> that syntax errors in the config file can cause coredumps and the
Ian> author seems unworried. This is not suitable for use unless you
Ian> know what you're doing.)
Ian> Package: chimera2 Description: Web browser for X ... This is an
Ian> alpha-test version; some of the rendering routines are buggy.
Ian> Package: cti-ifhp Description: Printer filter for HP LaserJet
Ian> printers
Ian> Package: debmake Description: Debianizing Tool and automated
Ian> binary generation (We should be deprecating debmake.)
Ian> Package: devscripts Description: Scripts to make the life of a
Ian> Debian Package maintainer easier. (Christoph scripts. Contains
Ian> namespace pollution, strange setuid binaries, &c.)
Ian> Package: dhcp Description: DHCP automatic IP address assignment
Ian> (This is a DHCP server, I think. See my other bug report about
Ian> dhcp et al.)
Ian> Package: display-dhammapada Description: Displays verse from
Ian> Dhammapada. (Seems obscure to me ...)
Ian> Package: djtools Description: Tools for HP DeskJet printer.
Ian> Package: echo-linux Description: French on-line magazine "L'Echo
Ian> de Linux"
Ian> Package: elisp-manual Description: Emacs Lisp Reference Manual
Ian> Package: elvis-tiny Description: Tiny vi compatible editor for
Ian> the base system. (Should be Extra if any other vi-a-like's are
Ian> Optional or better.)
Ian> Package: emacs-el Description: GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files.
Ian> Package: emacs-lisp-intro Description: Programming in Emacs Lisp:
Ian> An Introduction
Ian> Package: emacspeak Description: speech output interface to Emacs
Ian> Package: expect5.24-dev Description: Development files for the
Ian> expect5.24 package.
Ian> Package: floppybackup Description: Floppy backup using a
Ian> diversity of floppy formats (Surely noone installing all of
Ian> `Optional' could want to back up onto floppies ?)
Ian> Package: frad Description: Frame Relay Tools for DLCI/SDLA
Ian> Drivers in 2.0/2.1 kernels.
Ian> Package: freetype1-dev Description: FreeType development files
Ian> (static library and headers).
Ian> Package: gap Description: gap is a system for computational
Ian> discrete algebra. installed-size: 24180
Ian> Package: gdkimlib-dev Description: Library that allows to display
Ian> images within gdk/gtk
Ian> Package: gdkimlib0 Description: Library that allows to display
Ian> images within gdk/gtk (That's all of the descriptions, so I'm
Ian> guessing)
Ian> Package: gltt-bin Description: sample programs using gltt (gltt
Ian> is apparently `library to read and draw TrueType fonts in OpenGL
Ian> programs' and should be Optional because something depends on
Ian> it.)
Ian> Package: gltt1-dev Description: development kit for gltt
Ian> Package: glut-doc Description: Example programs and support
Ian> documentation for GLUT. (glut is apparently `The OpenGL Utility
Ian> Toolkit' and should be Optional because something depends on it.)
Ian> Package: glut-data Description: Data files for use with some of
Ian> the examples in glut-doc
Ian> Package: glutg3-dev Description: Development library for GLUT.
Ian> Package: gnome-dev Description: Header files and development
Ian> libraries for gnome
Ian> Package: gstep-base-dbg Description: GNUstep Base static
Ian> libraries. installed-size: 5561
Ian> Package: hello Description: The classic greeting, and a good
Ian> example
Ian> Package: hypermail Description: Create HTML archives of mailing
Ian> lists (Most people don't run mailing lists.)
Ian> Package: icmake Description: Intelligent C-like MAKEr, or the
Ian> ICce MAKE utility
Ian> Package: inn-dev Description: The libinn.a library and manpages.
Ian> Package: innfeed Description: This is the new INN feeder program
Ian> `innfeed.' (You'll know it if you want this.)
Ian> Package: intercal Description: ick - Compiler for the Intercal
Ian> language
Ian> Package: iplogger Description: TCP and ICMP event logger (Uses
Ian> packet tracing - should not be turned on unless the user knows
Ian> about it.)
Ian> Package: jail Description: Just Another ICMP Logger (I haven't
Ian> checked, but I think this uses packet tracing too.)
Ian> Package: journal-dev Description: Scripts to help building an
Ian> on-line magazine
Ian> Package: kernel-source-2.0.33 Description: Linux kernel
Ian> source. (et al. Source code distributed as a .deb should not be
Ian> installed unless the user knows they want it.)
Ian> Package: lambdacore Description: core database for lambdamoo
Ian> (Most people do not want to run a mud locally.)
Ian> Package: lambdamoo Description: a server for an online multiuser
Ian> virtual world
Ian> Package: lambdamoo-docs Description: LambdaMOO user and
Ian> programmer manuals
Ian> Package: jhcore Description: Jay's House Core, an enhanced core
Ian> database for lambdamoo
Ian> Package: pj-base Description: PLUTO JOURNAL: Italian OnLine
Ian> Magazine
Ian> Package: pj97n08 Description: Issue 8 (January) of PLUTO JOURNAL
Ian> 1997 (in Italian).
Ian> Package: lesstif-altdbg Description: Libc5 compatibility static
Ian> LessTif library for debugging.
Ian> Package: lesstif-altdev Description: Libc5 compatibility LessTif
Ian> development library and headers.
Ian> Package: lesstifg-dbg Description: Static library with debugging
Ian> symbols for LessTif.
Ian> Package: lg-base Description: Shared files for the Linux Gazette.
Ian> Package: lg-issue01to08 Description: Issues 1 to 8 of the Linux
Ian> Gazette.
Ian> Package: lg-issue09 Description: Issue 9 of the Linux
Ian> Gazette. (et al)
Ian> Package: libc5-altdbg Description: The Linux C library version 5
Ian> (alternative debug files).
Ian> Package: libc5-altdev Description: The Linux C library version 5
Ian> (alternative dev files).
Ian> Package: libc6-pic Description: The GNU C library version 2 (PIC
Ian> library) installed-size: 7308
Ian> Package: boot-floppies Description: Scripts to create the Debian
Ian> installation floppy set. Depends: libc6-pic, slang0.99.38-pic,
Ian> mkrboot, dosfstools (>=1.0-9.1), syslinux (>= 1.30), sysutils,
Ian> makedev (>=1.6-15), newt0.21, newt0.21-dev, popt
Ian> Package: libcanna1g-dev Description: Canna Static Library and
Ian> Headers (Libc6). Canna is a Japanese input system available in
Ian> Free Software. This package includes header and static libraries.
Ian> Package: libcompface1-altdev Description: Compress/decompress
Ian> images for mailheaders, libc5 devel
Ian> Package: libdl1-altdev Description: The Linux dynamic linker
Ian> library (alternative dev files).
Ian> Package: libdnd1-dev Description: OffiX drag and drop protocol
Ian> (development files).
Ian> Package: libelfg0-dev Description: an ELF object file access
Ian> library: development files
Ian> Package: libgdbm1-altdev Description: GNU dbm database routines
Ian> (development files) [libc5 compat]
Ian> Package: libgpm1-altdev Description: General Purpose Mouse
Ian> Library, development files [libc5]
Ian> Package: libgpmg1-dev Description: General Purpose Mouse Library,
Ian> development files [libc6]
Ian> Package: libgsm-bin Description: User binaries for a GSM speech
Ian> compressor.
Ian> Package: libgsm1 Description: Shared libraries for GSM speech
Ian> compressor.
Ian> Package: libgsm1-dev Description: Development libraries for a GSM
Ian> speech compressor.
Ian> Package: libjpeg-altdev Description: Development files for the
Ian> IJG jpeg library [libc5]
Ian> Package: liblzo-dev Description: Development support files for
Ian> the lzo library.
Ian> Package: libnatali-dev Description: An AppleTalk Library
Ian> Interface compatibility library for Netatalk
Ian> Package: libpam0-altdev Description: Header files for libpam
Ian> [libc5]
Ian> Package: libpam0-altutil Description: Authentication modules and
Ian> system binaries for libpam [libc5]
Ian> Package: libpam0g-dbg Description: Static library with debugging
Ian> symbols for libpam [libc6]
Ian> Package: libpam0g-dev Description: Header files for libpam
Ian> [libc6]
Ian> Package: libpcap-dev Description: Development library for
Ian> libpcap.
Ian> Package: libpng0-altdev Description: PNG library - libc5
Ian> development compatibility package
Ian> Package: libproplist0-dev Description: C headers, static
Ian> libraries and documentation for libPropList
Ian> Package: libpwdb-doc Description: Documentation for libpwdb
Ian> Package: libpwdb0-altdev Description: Header files for libpwdb
Ian> [libc5]
Ian> Package: libpwdb0g-dbg Description: Static library with debugging
Ian> symbols for libpwdb [libc6]
Ian> Package: libpwdb0g-dev Description: Header files for libpwdb
Ian> [libc6]
Ian> Package: libreadline2-altdev Description: GNU readline and
Ian> history libraries, development files. [libc5]
Ian> Package: libreadlineg2-dbg Description: GNU readline and history
Ian> libraries, debugging libraries. [libc6]
Ian> Package: librx1-altdev Description: Development library for
Ian> rx. [libc5]
Ian> Package: librx1g-dbg Description: Debugging library for
Ian> rx. [libc6]
Ian> Package: libtclobjc-dev Description: Development library for
Ian> libtclobjc.
Ian> Package: libtiff3-altdev Description: tiff development files
Ian> [libc5]
Ian> Package: libwine-dev Description: WINdows Emulator (Development
Ian> Files)
Ian> Package: libwine0.0.971116 Description: WINdows Emulator
Ian> (Library)
Ian> Package: libwmaker0 Description: Shared libraries for WindowMaker
Ian> aware applications.
Ian> Package: libwmaker0-dev Description: Static libraries and headers
Ian> for WindowMaker applications.
Ian> Package: libwraster0 Description: Shared libraries of WindowMaker
Ian> rasterizer.
Ian> Package: libwraster0-dev Description: Static libraries and
Ian> headers of WindowMaker rasterizer.
Ian> Package: mandelspawn Description: a distributed processing
Ian> Mandelbrot program for X (You need many computers.)
Ian> Package: mhonarc Description: Mail to HTML converter (Another
Ian> list archiver.)
Ian> Package: mingetty Description: Console-only getty. (We already
Ian> have a getty.)
Ian> Package: mkhybrid Description: CD-ROM authoring tool. Creates
Ian> CD-ROM filesystem images (You need a CD writer.)
Ian> Package: mkrboot Description: Make a kernel + rootimage bootable
Ian> from one disk or from DOS
Ian> Package: mpich Description: Parallel computing system
Ian> Package: mserver Description: Network Modem Server
Ian> Package: mtx Description: controls tape autochangers
Ian> Package: nas Description: The Network Audio System (NAS). (I
Ian> _believe_ this thing still takes over /dev/audio et al if you
Ian> install it, preventing other programs from working.)
Ian> Package: ncurses3.0-altdev Description: Old libc5 curses -
Ian> Developer's libraries
Ian> Package: ncurses3.4-dbg Description: Video terminal manipulation
Ian> - Debugging/profiling libraries.
Ian> Package: netcdf-altdev Description: Development kit for
Ian> NetCDF. (libc5 version)
Ian> Package: mh Description: A set of electronic mail handling
Ian> programs. (`nmh' is new MH and conflicts with mh.)
Ian> Package: objpak-dev Description: Developers kit for objpak.
Ian> Package: octave-staticlibs Description: Static libraries for the
Ian> GNU Octave language
Ian> Package: perl-debug Description: View internals of Perl and debug
Ian> Perl itself. ... You probably don't need this. perl -dead will
Ian> bring up the Perl source debugger and tell you much of what you
Ian> want to know. See perldebug(1).
Ian> Package: pptp-linux Description: PPTP Microsoft Compatible
Ian> Tunneling Protocol
Ian> Package: proftpd Description: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP
Ian> daemon Conflicts: wu-ftpd (But wu-ftpd is Optional)
Ian> Package: python-regrtest Description: Regression test for the
Ian> python distribution. Regression test for the python
Ian> distribution. You only need to install this if you don't trust
Ian> the python packages.
Ian> Package: python-gdbm Description: GDBM database support for
Ian> Python (obsolete). GDBM database support module for Python. The
Ian> gdbm module is obsoleted by anydb. (And it looks like anydb is
Ian> part of python-misc.)
Ian> Package: python-stdwin Description: Stdwin support for Python
Ian> (obsolete). Platform-independent user interface toolkit for
Ian> Python. Stdwin is now obsolete and will be removed from the
Ian> Python distribution.
Ian> Package: radiusd-livingston Description: Remote Authentication
Ian> Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) server (You need a modem bank to
Ian> run this !)
Ian> Package: regex0-altdev Description: GNU regular expression
Ian> library, development files. [libc5]
Ian> Package: regex0g-dbg Description: GNU regular expression library,
Ian> debugging libraries. [libc6]
Ian> Package: regina-dev Description: The Regina REXX interpreter,
Ian> development files.
Ian> Package: sane Description: API for scanners
Ian> Package: slang0.99.34-dev Description: S-Lang libc5 backward
Ian> compatibility development kit (We also have slang0.99.38-dev)
Ian> Package: smartlist Description: Versatile and Intelligent List
Ian> Processor
Ian> Package: squid-novm Description: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy
Ian> cache) NOVM version Conflicts: squid
Ian> Package: svgalib1-altdev Description: Shared, non-x, graphics
Ian> library used by Ghostscript et al.
Ian> Package: tcl76-altdev Description: The Tool Command Language
Ian> (TCL) v7.6 - libc5 Development Package.
Ian> Package: tclx76-dev Description: Extended Tcl (TclX) version 7.6
Ian> -- development package
Ian> Package: tk42-altdev Description: The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11
Ian> v4.2 - libc5 Development Package.
Ian> Package: v-altdev Description: V - a C++ GUI Framework
Ian> (development files for libc5).
Ian> Package: v-dbg Description: V - a C++ GUI Framework (library
Ian> debugging files).
Ian> Package: vm-el Description: A mail user agent for Emacs
Ian> (uncompiled elsip source files)
Ian> Package: win32binutils Description: The GNU assembler, linker and
Ian> binary utilities (Win32 version).
Ian> Package: win32gcc Description: The GNU C compiler (Win32
Ian> version).
Ian> Package: win32libs Description: POSIX emulation libraries for the
Ian> Win32 API.
Ian> Package: wine Description: WINdows Emulator (Binary Emulator)
Ian> Package: wine-doc Description: WINdows Emulator (Documentation)
Ian> Package: wmaker-superfluous Description: WindowMaker compiled
Ian> with superfluous options ... The WindowMaker author thinks this
Ian> is "useless stuff that bloats and slows down WindowMaker"
Ian> Package: wmf Description: Web Mail Folder
Ian> Package: wu-ftpd-academ Description: A powerful replacement for
Ian> the standard ftpd Conflicts: wu-ftpd Provides: wu-ftpd
Ian> Package: x10 Description: Operate X-10 electrical power control
Ian> modules.
Ian> Package: x10-automate Description: GUI interface for x10 power
Ian> line control utility
Ian> Package: x48 Description: Emulator of Hewlett-Packards HP48
Ian> calculator ...You need an original HP48 calculator to dump its
Ian> ROM.
Ian> Package: xcdroast Description: X based CD-writer software
Ian> Package: xemacs19-supportel Description: el library files for
Ian> XEmacs 19.16.
Ian> Package: xemacs19 Description: XEmacs 19.16 editor and kitchen
Ian> sink Conflicts: xemacs, xemacs-widget
Ian> Package: xemacs19-support Description: Support and architecture
Ian> independant files for XEmacs 19.16.
Ian> Package: xemacs20-supportel Description: el library files for
Ian> XEmacs 20.4.
Ian> Package: xlib6-altdev Description: Include files and libraries
Ian> for libc5 X client development
Ian> Package: xpm4-altdev Description: X Pixmap libraries (for libc5)
Ian> - development
Ian> Package: xslib Description: Statically linked versions of the
Ian> libraries in xlib You only need to install this package if you
Ian> intend to compile statically linked X clients against libc5.
Ian> Package: xview-altdev Description: XView development tools
Ian> [libc5]
Ian> Package: zlib1-altdev Description: compression library -
Ian> development (for libc5)
Ian> -- Ian Jackson, at home. Local/personal:
Ian> ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk ian@chiark.greenend.org.uk
Ian> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/
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