Re: State of the Art wrt XML/XSL.
Moin Joey Hess,
> The point is that with Debian's perl setup, you don't have to reinstall
> the same module in 2 different places if you have 2 different version of
> perl on your system (unless it is a XS module).
the debian way handling perl is broken :
- debian does not know, if I install a new module using CPAN, and may
want to overwrite it with an older module, at next dselect, if some
debian package thinks it need this module.
- its not possible to ask the Debian Perl for an autobundle, and to
remake a complete new Perl, as critical modules for running Debian
are missing on CPAN.
- its impossible to query those critical Perl modules for documentation
using e.g. 'perldoc Debian::DebConf' shows me 'No documentation found'.
> Anyone who wrote an XS module without MakeMaker would be certificably
> doing a Bad Thing, but Debian's perl policy ensures that debian-specific
> perl modules can be installed by plain old Makefiles into /usr/lib/perl5
> and Just Work.
Debian and CPAN should integrate. Currently Debian is blocking CPAN.
Integration means that I people should be able to mix CPAN autobundle
with Debian dselect in both directions. e.g. ask /usr/bin/perl for a
autobundle, and install a new perl in ~/perl. Or ask the ~/perl for
a autobundle, install them at /usr/bin/perl and have those packages
I have installed by CPAN in my /var/lib/dpkg/status to meet Debian
require/suggest for next dselect.
Currently Debian's /usr/bin/perl is useless for me ;-( I dont say that
the complete Debian is useless for me - it provides a `I dont need to
think about` for programms I just use. - I just say that they way Debian
ignores CPAN is broken - Even windows does it better take a look at
the way ActiveState does - and thats a shame to say, as I've hacked
on the early Linux ext2-fs ;-)
> I suggest you learn what pod documentation is. You will find that over
> 75% of debconf, by volume, is pod documentation. That is, of course,
> ignoring the 1500 lines of additional documentation in xml and plain
> text format.
I did'nt saw any pod ?
bakunin:/usr/lib/perl5 $ perldoc Debian::DebConf
No documentation found for "Debian::DebConf".
bakunin:/usr/lib/perl5 $ find Debian Dpkg -type f | xargs fgrep =head
bakunin:/usr/lib/perl5 $
and I cant also see any pod in dpkg/list/debconf-doc.list ;-(
could you enlight me where to find this hidden doc ;-)
Bye Michael
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