Re: sharing collaboration efforts on OCaml
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:06:28PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 07:03:26PM +0000, Richard Jones wrote:
> > Don't know how interested Debian are in packaging ocamljava, but I've
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 07:39:24PM +0000, Richard Jones wrote:
> > I recently packaged Vincent Hanquez's ocaml-dbus in Fedora:
>
> Thanks for this pointers of your Richard.
> They makes 2 points coming to my mind:
>
> 1) what about creating a collaboration wiki page between Fedora and
> Debian, we seem to be the 2 distributions most interested in
> packaging OCaml stuff, I think it would be cool to just be able to
> mutually check whether the other has a patch for a given problem or
> not. Debian-side I think almost all information for collaboration
> are available in the form of:
>
> - the list of OCaml-related packages and all other information which
> we already collect starting from
> http://pkg-ocaml-maint.alioth.debian.org
>
> - the fact the all (well, I hope) OCaml-related packages declare
> their versioning repository. So, if you want to check whether we
> have a patch or not you can just do "debcheckout pkgname".
>
> Do you have anything like that in Fedora, would it make sense to
> match package to package? Or, at least, can you point us^Wme to how
> we can I quick and easily see all the patches you have made to a
> given OCaml-related package and have a list of them?
So you can see the list of packages in Fedora here:
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/
For example, ocaml-dbus package is here:
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/ocaml-dbus/
There are two branches for that particular RPM, F-8 (Fedora 8) and
devel (the development branch which will eventually become Fedora 9).
Going into devel, you can see the spec file and the patches I
mentioned earlier:
http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewcvs/rpms/ocaml-dbus/devel/
The above only applies to packages which have actually been released
in Fedora. Before that they sit around as "Review Requests" in
bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=MODIFIED&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=review+request+ocaml&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=
I'm checking out pkg-ocaml-maint from alioth to get an equivalent view
on Debian's state of development. I don't think a wiki page is
worthwhile since we have full visibility of each others projects.
> 2) I do think both of the software you have pointed us to are worth to
> be available in Debian. Actually, in particular ocamljava has the
> potential to boost the amount of libraries available for OCaml so it
> would be a real pity not having it into Debian.
>
> However, we usually do not package stuff just because it is cool, we
> tend to prefer actual software users to maintain them in Debian; for
> the simple reason that there is no guarantee a non-user will take
> care of the package for even a near future (it happened several time
> in the past the stuff in our repository got abandoned for this
> reason).
>
> So let me reword your question as: is anybody here interested in
> packaging one of the two software you mention Debian-side? I
> personally won't since I don't use ATM any of the two.
I'm packaging ocamljava just because I want to play with it. I don't
expect to have any serious use for it.
But D-Bus support is really important to me. The virtual machine
management program I'm developing (virt-ctrl here:
http://hg.et.redhat.com/virt/applications/virt-top--devel?mf=0f557147776f;path=/)
will use zeroconf to autodiscover managed nodes on the local network.
Under Linux, access to zeroconf is via Avahi / D-Bus.
Rich.
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Richard Jones
Red Hat
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