Re: Becoming a Debian Maintainer - and behavior of DDs
Hello Raphael,
June 30 2016 3:02 PM, "Raphael Hertzog" <hertzog@debian.org> wrote:
> Hello Richard,
>
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016, Richard B Winters wrote:
>
>> Again, you are just talking out of your .... I care not about the
>> uploaders field, I've said this to you numerous times (and repeated it
>> yet again for you above). I do not know any other way to make you
>> understand that I am not an idiot, I know what you are doing and I can
>> see through your BS.
>>
>> Instead of excuses, why not simply apologize and promise it wont happen
>> again, just like you did in IRC after I sent the original email -
>> instead of making excuses that contradict your actions?
>>
>> Again, I wasn't expecting anything of this email chain. I simply want
>> this information shared someplace more permanently than IRC chat.
>
> I'm not sure that having this conversation stored permanently on mailing
> list archive is going to help you or Debian in any way.
>
> I understand you feel somewhat betrayed because Ferenc is going
> forward quicker than you but that's life in Debian. This is a
> meritocracy and a social project. Some learn faster or have more
> prior knowledge, some interact in a way that fits better the
> existing developers, etc.
>
> Even if you had the technical skills, you just proved that you
> are prompt to insult other Debian contributors and that makes
> it a no-go for many of us. We had too many problems in the past
> by focusing only on the technical aspect and so we are much
> more attentive to the ability to work collaboratively in a friendly
> way. That doesn't mean that we can't complain and argue, but there are
> ways to do it and you haven't found the correct way, yet.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer
>
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From what I've seen go back and forth through Debian lists matter-of-fact phrases and insults are not uncommon. Though I do appreciate the reply and your advice. I am not saying those things out of spite or malice, it is matter-of-fact and I am simply being blunt. I'll change my phrasing in the future.
I do want to point out that my intelligence - and contribution - is being insulted by a DD - I think my aggravation should be quite understood. Yet, you - and many of you - aren't the one(s) making that contradiction - I admit.
I will end this on that note, and not say or reply anymore on this chain.
Best regards,
Richard B Winters
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