AM report on Daniel Bungert by Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> ================================== ID --- GPG key signed by Matt Danish pub 1024D/57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu> sig! 57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu> sig? 3C8B14B3 2001-04-05 sig! C24B6010 2001-05-07 Matthew Danish <mrd@debian.org> sub 2048g/63D26ED5 2001-04-05 sig! 57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu> ID check passed. Philosophy & Procedures ----------------------- Correctly answered questions about procedures. Most of philosophy questions answered correctly and is even aware of current potiential changes and discussions about it. Was a little unsure on "free", I sent some supplementary questions to check. They were answered ok. P&P checked Tasks & Skills -------------- Packaged a sponsored paclage pwm, which is a window manager. Sponsor (Matt again), says he was happy with the package. T&S check passed. Recommendation -------------- I recommend that Daniel be accepted as a Debian maintainer Debian login: drb Forwarding email: drb210@psu.edu -- Craig Small VK2XLZ GnuPG:1C1B D893 1418 2AF4 45EE 95CB C76C E5AC 12CA DFA5 Eye-Net Consulting http://www.eye-net.com.au/ <csmall@eye-net.com.au> MIEEE <csmall@ieee.org> Debian developer <csmall@debian.org>
From csmall Fri Jun 15 08:16:04 2001
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:16:04 +1000
To: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
Subject: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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G'day Daniel,
My name is Craig Small and I will be your Application Manager to guide you
through the Debian New Maintainer process. You can always check your current
status through the process by looking at http://nm.debian.org/
The first step is ID stage. There now has been a change to the procedures
so if you have your GPG key signed by a current Debian developer then all
you need to do is send me a copy of that key in an email that is signed
by that key. If you don't then let me know and we will work something out.
By far the most preferred way is to get your key signed by a developer,
we can only use other means if there is no developer close.
Also have a look at http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-checklist to see
the New Maintainer checklist as this is what I will be working off. You
can see what the next steps involve. Those steps are easier to pass if
you have built a package as it gives the questions some context but it is
not essential to have done so. I cannot emphasise how important it is to
understand that checklist to get through the process quickly. To give you
an idea, I am generally processing 5 applicants at the same time. If the
replies I get from a particular applicant are spot on, I process them
first. The applicants that need more help or clarification will get it,
no problem with that, but it will take longer.
If you like you can also talk to me on IRC. My nick is seeS and you'll find
me on the Debian developer's channel #debian-devel on the openprojects.net
network.
Thankyou for your interest in Debian and hope to hear from you soon.
- Craig
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From: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
To: Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au> wrote:
> G'day Daniel,
>
> My name is Craig Small
Hi Craig.
> so if you have your GPG key signed by a current Debian developer then all
> you need to do is send me a copy of that key in an email that is signed
> by that key.
Matt Danish signed my key earlier this summer. My pub key should be
attached.
> Those steps are easier to pass if
> you have built a package as it gives the questions some context but it
> is not essential to have done so.
PWM, my first and only package, is in unstable.
> If you like you can also talk to me on IRC. My nick is seeS
I often idle in #debian with the nick drb; I will idle in #debian-devel
as well :)
Whichever mechanism of communication you prefer, be it email or IRC, is
fine.
> Thankyou for your interest in Debian and hope to hear from you soon.
>
> - Craig
Thanks for the quick reply.
-Dan
--=20
Daniel Bungert | www.personal.psu.edu/drb210
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From csmall Fri Jun 22 07:55:15 2001
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 07:55:15 +1000
To: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
Message-ID: <20010622075515.A23473@eye-net.com.au>
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 09:39:45AM -0400, Daniel Bungert wrote:
> Matt Danish signed my key earlier this summer. My pub key should be
> attached.
I'm talking to him on irc now. He says he signed your key, however your
key you sent me looks like this.
pub 1024D/57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu>
sig! 57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu>
sig? 3C8B14B3 2001-04-05
sub 2048g/63D26ED5 2001-04-05
sig! 57484B76 2001-04-05 Daniel Bungert (drb) <drb210@psu.edu>
He says he is not 3c8b14b3, so it looks like you didn't import his
signing.
> PWM, my first and only package, is in unstable.
Who's the sponsor?
> Whichever mechanism of communication you prefer, be it email or IRC, is
> fine.
Email is good for "offiical" question and answers. irc is good for
informal stuff.
- Craig
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Eye-Net Consulting http://www.eye-net.com.au/ <csmall@eye-net.com.au>
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Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 09:39:45AM -0400, Daniel Bungert wrote:
> > Matt Danish signed my key earlier this summer. My pub key should be
> > attached.
> He says he is not 3c8b14b3, so it looks like you didn't import his
> signing.
I did import his signing but didn't update the ASCII armored pub key.
I sent you the old one. Sorry for the unnecessary confusion.
> > PWM, my first and only package, is in unstable.
> Who's the sponsor?
Matt again. I am certain he is getting sick of me :)
-Dan
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Daniel Bungert | www.personal.psu.edu/drb210
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From csmall Mon Jun 25 09:41:23 2001
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:41:23 +1000
To: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:04:02AM -0400, Daniel Bungert wrote:
> I did import his signing but didn't update the ASCII armored pub key.
> I sent you the old one. Sorry for the unnecessary confusion.
This one is much better. ID step passed.
I have emailled Matt about the package that he sponsors for you.
We have to check that you understand the Social Contract and the Debian
Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). Have you read them? If not, please
do so. You can find them in /usr/share/doc/debian or on
http://www.debian.org
First, please explain the key points of the Social Contract and the
DFSG _in your own words_.
Secondly, a few questions, based on them:
- Donald Knuth, author of TeX, insists that no-one has the right to
modify the source code of TeX, and that any changes must be made using
"change files" (a sort of patch file). Is this allowed for a program
for the main section of Debian?
- What is Debian's (current) approach to non-free software? Why? Is
non-free part of the Debian System?
- Debian was offered a Debian-specific license to package a certain
piece of software (I forget which). Would we put it in main?
- Do you know (and can you explain) the difference between free speech
and free beer? Is Debian mainly about free speech or free beer?
- The e-mail client pine is in non-free. Can you tell me the
difference between main, contrib and non-free? Do you know what's
wrong with Pine's current license in regard to the DFSG? (If you
don't know this, never mind).
- At http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-copyright?package=mpg123 you
can find the license of mpg123. Can you tell me why this program
is non-free according to the DFSG?
Do you agree to uphold the Social Contract and the DFSG?
If you are accepted as a Debian developer, you will get accounts
on the Debian machines. Have you read the Debian Machine Usage
Policies (DMUP) at http://www.debian.org/devel/dmup ? Do you
accept them?
I'm sure you have read the Debian Developers' Reference at
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/developers-reference/
- What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU?
- Tell me 3 different methods to close a bug in the BTS.
- What would you do if a bug was reported against your package and
you are not able to fix it yourself?
- Do you know what 'lintian' is? Why is it useful?
A word on mailing lists: there are quite a lot of Debian mailing lists
now and packaging-related packages, and I'd just like to check with
you whether you know about the key ones. I think all of the packages
are listed as dependencies of task-debian-devel, but you may not be
aware of what you have got.
Packages:
dpkg-dev All of the primary tools needed to put a Debian package
together: dpkg-buildpackage, dpkg-source, etc.
debhelper A very useful set of scripts designed to make
debian/rules files more readable and uniform.
debian-policy, packaging-manual
Describe the policy relating to packages and details of
the packaging mechanism. Cover everything from
required gcc options to the way the maintainer scripts
(postinst etc.) work, package sections and priorities,
etc. An absolute must-read. Also useful is the file
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.txt,
which lists changes between versions of policy.
doc-debian Lots of useful Debian-specific documentation: the
constitution and DFSG, explanation of the Bug Tracking
System (BTS), etc.
maint-guide
The New Maintainer's Guide to making Debian packages.
devscripts Lots of useful (and not-so-useful) scripts to help build
packages.
developers-reference
Lots of information on procedures and suchlike.
dupload Automatically upload packages to the archive once they
are built.
fakeroot Build packages without having to be root.
It's not half as bad as it seems at first, but the long-term
advantages to the maintainer and user of having such detailed
descriptions of package building should be clear ;-)
And as for mailing lists, you do not really need to read lots, but the
most significant ones are probably:
debian-announce: Major public announcements
debian-devel-announce: Major announcements to the developer community
These two lists are must-subscribes. Everything else is optional. I
abbreviate 'debian-' to '-' from now on!
-security-announce:
security updates to stable (and possibly also frozen)
-private: you'll be subscribed automatically when your new-maintainer
application is accepted; sensitive discussions, flamewars
etc. You can unsubscribe if you wish.
-devel: general mailing list for developer issues
-policy: where possible changes to debian-policy are discussed
There are many others; check the mailing list page on the web site
for details.
Finally, http://www.debian.org/devel offers very good resources for
Debian developers. The WNPP page at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp
is important if you want to announce that you are working on a new
package or if you want to adopt one. Finally, http://bugs.debian.org
has a good description on the Bug Tracking System.
P. S. Please sign your reply.
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Hi.
Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au> wrote:
> We have to check that you understand the Social Contract and the Debian
> Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). Have you read them? =20
Yes.
> If not, please
> do so. You can find them in /usr/share/doc/debian or on
> http://www.debian.org
>
> First, please explain the key points of the Social Contract and the
> DFSG _in your own words_.
The most important aspect of a piece of software is out ability,
as users, to have the source code. The ability to create a derivative
work from the original source is preferred. The software must be
usable by all; the license must not pick and choose who is allowed to
use the software. Finally, the program must not place restrictions on=20
other software that is *not* a derivative work.=20
=20
> Secondly, a few questions, based on them:
>=20
> - Donald Knuth, author of TeX, insists that no-one has the right to
> modify the source code of TeX, and that any changes must be made using
> "change files" (a sort of patch file). Is this allowed for a program
> for the main section of Debian?
Yes, via the patch rule. (The compromise where Debian accepts a package
into main if the license at least allows patches to be distributed along
with the original source. You know, DFSG #4)
> - What is Debian's (current) approach to non-free software? Why? Is
> non-free part of the Debian System?
'current' seems to be the proper word. Packages in non-free are
not officially considered to be part of the Debian archive.
Policy requires that any package included in the non-free section=20
meet as many other standards as possible (for packaging and so forth).
I remember reading of a previous attempt to remove non-free (and thus
contrib) from Debian altogether. The movement seems to be dormant at
the present - it is my opinion that there will be another attempt to
remove both non-free and contrib once Mozilla stabilizes and it's
derivatives (Skipstone, Galeon, et al.) are more usable.[1]
=20
> - Debian was offered a Debian-specific license to package a certain
> piece of software (I forget which). Would we put it in main?
By Debian-specific I assume you mean that this package had different
rules for Debian users and non-Debian users.
No. The package would be placed in non-free. DFSG discourages software=20
which discriminates against groups of people; in this case, the software=20
seems to discriminate against users of other distributions/operating=20
systems.
Oh yea, and the whole 'License must not be specific to debian' part.
I guess that would disqualify it too :)
=20
> - Do you know (and can you explain) the difference between free speech
> and free beer? Is Debian mainly about free speech or free beer?
Speech represents the source code. Beer represents the program itself.
Debian is primarily concerned with free speech; free beer is also
necessary if we are to distribute via ftp/http.
> - The e-mail client pine is in non-free. Can you tell me the
> difference between main, contrib and non-free? Do you know what's
> wrong with Pine's current license in regard to the DFSG? (If you
> don't know this, never mind).
Software in main is DFSG clean, and only depends on software that is
also in main. Software in contrib is DFSG clean but depends (at least
partially, not necessarily entirely) on software that is not in main. =20
Software in non-free is not DFSG clean.
I read the pine faq at http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/legal.html
This doesn't include a full copy of the license, but I get the gist of=20
the problem. UofW wants to grant rights for non-trivial patches
before they can be distributed. This obviously disqualifies pine for
main, as it is too restrictive to even meet the patch rule.
> - At http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/get-copyright?package=3Dmpg123 you
> can find the license of mpg123. Can you tell me why this program
> is non-free according to the DFSG?
That url returned a 404. I just apt-got mpg123.
I see two problems with mpg123's license. First is the usage section,=20
which requires contacting the author prior to mpg123's usage in=20
for-profit activities. The next sentence about usage that isn't=20
covered by the license isn't very clear. That may or may not be a=20
sticking point.
The next definite problem is the lack of ability to create a derivative=20
work. He has not allowed the patch exception.
Two points non-DFSG-clean, one more possibility.
> Do you agree to uphold the Social Contract and the DFSG?
Yes.
=20
> If you are accepted as a Debian developer, you will get accounts
> on the Debian machines. Have you read the Debian Machine Usage
> Policies (DMUP) at http://www.debian.org/devel/dmup ? Do you
> accept them?
Yes. Yes.
> - What are Non-Maintainer Uploads (NMUs) and when would you do an NMU?
A NMU occurs when someone that is not the maintainer uploads a package.
If I were a member of a porting team, I might have to NMU to correct the
package for an intricacy of the target architecture. If I were working=20
on a bug that is contained in a package maintained by someone else,=20
I could do a NMU, but only after waiting the appropriate amount of time. =
=20
'Appropriate' depends upon the severity of the bug and the distribution=20
the package is located in. In short, in stable or frozen, severe bugs
can be NMUed within a few days (but one should attempt to contact the=20
maintainer first), while in unstable one can NMU after following the=20
steps outlined in the developers-reference, section 7.3.
> - Tell me 3 different methods to close a bug in the BTS.
Changelog syntax. From /usr/share/doc/pwm/changelog.Debian.gz ,
* ITP acknowledged. (Closes: #100029)
Emailing control@bugs.d.o In pseudo-email form,
-----
To: control@bugs.debian.org
close 100029
stop
-----
If this form is used, a separate email should be sent to the bug
submitter.
Emailing nnn-done@bugs.d.o Closing a bug via this method involves
replying to the initial bug report (or another message in the
nnn@bugs thread I assume), and adding nnn-done@bugs.debian.org
to the To: field.
> - What would you do if a bug was reported against your package and
> you are not able to fix it yourself?
If the bug is in the package and not the program itself, I would be best to=
=20
seek help first from -mentors. If -mentors is unable to provide an=20
appropriate answer, I would go to -devel.
If the bug is in the program itself, the best idea is to contact the
upstream maintainer/author. This correspondence would contain the full
Debian bug report and any attempts the Debian community has made to correct=
=20
the bug.
=20
> - Do you know what 'lintian' is? Why is it useful?
Lintian is a program that checks Debian packages for common mistakes.
This ranges from spelling errors to major policy violations. It is
useful in that it can catch mistakes before they become yet another bug=20
in the BTS and yet another package to download.
=20
> A word on mailing lists:=20
[...]
The list of important mailing lists was helpful. I didn't notice
-devel-announce until recently (and regular -announce until now).=20
I believe all the packages were covered in devel docs.
-Dan
[1] At least one person agrees with me.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0106/msg00396.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0106/msg00447.html
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Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:58:27PM -0400, Daniel Bungert wrote:
> The most important aspect of a piece of software is out ability,
> as users, to have the source code. The ability to create a derivative
> work from the original source is preferred. The software must be
> usable by all; the license must not pick and choose who is allowed to
> use the software. Finally, the program must not place restrictions on
> other software that is *not* a derivative work.
This is the "Open Source" versus "Free Software" issue, it's very
important to understand the differences as Debian was founded on certain
principles. It is important that Debian's developers understand these
principles.
As in illustration, the original Unix you could get the source code if
you were a university, you could even modify it. But you couldn't
redistribute it.
The modification and redistribution of software, in either source code
or binary, is extremely important.
I hope that has cleared things up for you.
> > - Do you know (and can you explain) the difference between free speech
> > and free beer? Is Debian mainly about free speech or free beer?
>
> Speech represents the source code. Beer represents the program itself.
> Debian is primarily concerned with free speech; free beer is also
> necessary if we are to distribute via ftp/http.
No.
Have another go. This is very important as well.
A hint, I buy my Debian CDs and that's ok.
> Software in main is DFSG clean, and only depends on software that is
DFSG free, but yes.
> > can find the license of mpg123. Can you tell me why this program
> > is non-free according to the DFSG?
[..]
> The next definite problem is the lack of ability to create a derivative
> work. He has not allowed the patch exception.
(for the purposes of a few lines above) "But I get the program for
nothing, sure that makes it free" ?
We need to clear these things up first, your procedures stuff was fine.
- Craig
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Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au> wrote:
> > > - Do you know (and can you explain) the difference between free spee=
ch
> > > and free beer? Is Debian mainly about free speech or free beer?
> >=20
> > Speech represents the source code. Beer represents the program itself.
> > Debian is primarily concerned with free speech; free beer is also
> > necessary if we are to distribute via ftp/http.
> No.
> Have another go. This is very important as well. =20
> A hint, I buy my Debian CDs and that's ok.
Beer is the binary, speech is the source - not just having the source,
but modifying and reusing the source as I the user see fit.=20
Debian is mainly about free speech. Through free speech, we get free
beer - I discuss this more elaborately below.
=20
> > Software in main is DFSG clean, and only depends on software that is
> DFSG free, but yes.
I have often heard the term 'DFSG clean'. Is there a difference between
'DFSG clean' and 'DFSG free' ?
=20
> > > can find the license of mpg123. Can you tell me why this program
> > > is non-free according to the DFSG?
> [..]
> > The next definite problem is the lack of ability to create a derivative=
=20
> > work. He has not allowed the patch exception.
> (for the purposes of a few lines above) "But I get the program for
> nothing, sure that makes it free" ?
To write an extension to mpg123, I have to seek Michael Hipp's
permission. If I want to take a part of mpg123 and use it in my
program, I need to get Michael Hipp's permission. The "Open Source"
community would consider this software to be sub-par, but acceptable.
The "Free Software" community would consider this software to not be free.
I shouldn't have to ask anyones permission.
That is the difference. From the DFSG perspective, it doesn't matter
what I have to do to obtain a piece of software. What does matter is
that I have the source, and I can modify the source, use some or all
of the source in another program entirely, print the source out and make
paper airplanes, even redistribute the source in ways the author didn't
use. If the author only offered his program for a charge, and I could
turn around and distribute it for free; and if the author only offered
his program for free, and I could turn around and distribute it for a
charge, and all other combinations of monetary charge thereof, then this
program would meet the distribution requirements of "Free Software" free
software.
As for free speech/free beer, this means that given proper free speech,
even beer of cost can become free. Thus you can buy your debian cd's,
rip an iso, and post the iso for me to download, burn, and sell.
This is why Debian doesn't have to be concerned with free beer. Given
free speech, the developers and ftp-masters can put it on ftp/http/cd
or whatever.
-Dan
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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 14:59:06 +1000
To: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 09:48:33PM -0400, Daniel Bungert wrote:
> Debian is mainly about free speech. Through free speech, we get free
> beer - I discuss this more elaborately below.
I see where you are coming from. You can tell the difference between
the two even I don't fully agree with your idea that free beer comes
from free speech.
However, you have answered the questions correctly, so that's P&P
passed. Already checked T&S so all we need now is.
A suggested login name for the Debian machines.
An address you want your debian email forwarded to (such as the one I'm
using to email you now).
- Craig
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Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au> wrote:
> Already checked T&S so all we need now is.
>=20
> A suggested login name for the Debian machines.
drb please.
> An address you want your debian email forwarded to (such as the one I'm
> using to email you now).
drb210@psu.edu is fine.
Thanks Craig.
-Dan
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From csmall Wed Aug 1 12:55:35 2001
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:55:35 +1000
To: Daniel Bungert <drb210@psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Maintainer Application
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G'day Daniel,
You have now successfully passed all steps in the NM process, I will
be recommending to the NM commitee that you be accepted as a Debian
maintainer.
The next person who contacts you will be the Debian Accounts Manager,
who sets you up in the Debian systems. Congratulations Daniel in
getting through.
- Craig
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From csmall Mon Jun 25 09:38:50 2001
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:38:50 +1000
To: mrd@debian.org
Subject: [drb]: Debian Applicant - Tasks & Skills Test
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G'day,
Daniel Bungert is currently in the new Debian maintainer process. Part
of this process is to check that he has sufficient skills and can
perform the neccessary tasks as a Debian maintainer. You can find out
more about this step at http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step4
I am his application manager which means I guide him through the
checklist and then report on my findings to the New Maintainer Committee
and the Debian Accounts Managers.
He has said that you are the sponsor of one of his packages, pwm. In
your opinion do you believe Daniel is capable of maintaining this (or
any other) packages as a Debian Maintainer?
In your reply, I'd appreciate it if you could GPG sign it.
- Craig
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To: Craig Small <csmall@eye-net.com.au>
Subject: Re: [drb]: Debian Applicant - Tasks & Skills Test
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On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> G'day,
> Daniel Bungert is currently in the new Debian maintainer process. Part
> of this process is to check that he has sufficient skills and can
> perform the neccessary tasks as a Debian maintainer. You can find out
> more about this step at http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step4
> I am his application manager which means I guide him through the
> checklist and then report on my findings to the New Maintainer Committee
> and the Debian Accounts Managers.
>=20
> He has said that you are the sponsor of one of his packages, pwm. In
> your opinion do you believe Daniel is capable of maintaining this (or
> any other) packages as a Debian Maintainer?
The original packaging of pwm contained several minor errors, but they
were easily fixed. The package builds lintian-clean now, and my
inspection of it found no fault. In my opinion, Daniel Bungert is
quite capable of being a fine maintainer for pwm, and other packages.
>=20
> In your reply, I'd appreciate it if you could GPG sign it.
> - Craig
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