Re: task & skills
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote:
Hi Christian, hi Dale,
> > do either use the high standards I want to use for my applicants and they
> > see that others with lower skills are already accepted by other AMs or
> > when I do suggest that they should become members of Debian before I do
> > really think they are ready. When I see that a package with missing build
> > dependencies (except debhelper) that has in debian/copyright a "Copyright:
> > not yet known" and 2 other bugs is enough to become a Debian maintainer
> > (http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint-discuss-0011/msg00103.html) I
> > can't see any quality standards that are needed.
> Have you ever mailed about this to the AMs and the NM-Frontdesk
> (especially Dale) and told them your concerns to discuss this out and
> find a better solution? If not, I definitely recommend doing so, before
> blaiming here the whole NM-process. (And yes, I know what I say, because
> I already had some things to discuss about the NM-process with Dale and
> so I know that you can discuss with him things). If yes, then this
> behaviour of some AMs should be publically discussed even if it's needed
> on debian-project. But just moaning here on to list where not many
> people see it, won't help improve the situation.
> > After the discussion where James and Martin totally disagreed with me I
> > decided I'll stop being an AM after I'll have processed my two applicants.
> Just because the person creating accounts and and AM have a different
> view, you just quit without talking with the head of the NM process?
> Sorry to say, but this is idiotic. James has not more influence on the
> NM process then you. So if you want to see some changes, then you are
> free to contact Dale and convince him.
you are right, I didn't contact Dale after the discussion with James and
Martin. I was under the impression that if the DAM says that it he don't
understand me his opinion is some kind of a final judgement. I did only
send my general concerns about the speed some AMs process the applicants
some time ago.
Martin is only "an AM", but he has already processed 42 applicants (more
than 25% of all processed applicants) and if he continues with his speed
he will process half of all applicants.
Dale: It was my fault not trying to contact you. I haven't seen your
opinion in this discussion. Could you tell what you think about it
or if you want you can discuss my views with me privately.
Sorry that I didn't try to contact all people I should have contacted. I
was a bit frustrated after the discussion and did only think of it again
after I saw earlier in this thread that other AMs have the same
problems/concerns I have. It might be I did some mistakes.
One important thing: Don't let us forget our main goal: Debian.
I have perhaps more a QA view when I think of such things than other
people. It isn't important who of us is right or wrong. Let's discuss
together what's best for Debian as a whole.
A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a
"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
-- Mahatma Ghandi