Scanned Photos Req'd (was Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current... scheme )
Anand Kumria wrote:
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> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:35:40PM +0000, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Matthew Vernon wrote:
> >
> > > Dale Scheetz writes:
> > >
> > > > ...Scanning a passport seems to be a reasonable skill to
> > > > require of incoming members. Isn't it?
> > >
> > > No. Why should being a debian developer require you to be able to get
> > > hold of a scanner?
> >
> > Why should we require them to have access to a computer?
This really is a non-sequitur. We expect them to have access to a
computer because they are developing computer software packages.
They are not developing scanner software packages, for the most
part. I'd raise my eyebrows if the packager of source from the SANE
project didn't have such access, but no so with most.
> > We don't require this. We do require them to be "competent" enough to be
> > able to crate an image file from a document. Consider this a technical
> > performance test. "Can the applicant provide a specific document in
> > digital format, properly signed?"
Then why isn't this in the SKILLS & PROCEDURES section of qualifying,
as opposed to the IDENTIFICATION section?
> This requirement that they provide an image is only for the new-maintainer
> process. Debian, as a project, requires people to be competent enough to
> sign things (generally packages).
The issue isn't signing; the issue is requiring the identification of oneself by
scanning a (fakeable) photo.
[Anand's cogent argument for trusting existing Developers deleted]
Mark Brown wrote:
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> On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 07:35:40PM +0000, Dale Scheetz wrote:
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> > This just doesn't seem to be the onerous task that several have made it
> > out to be. It's just another requirement for becoming a member. Why not
> > just obliterate all the requirements, and make signing up sufficient to
> > membership? We did that at one time, why not now?
>
> > We wish to restrict membership to those people who are open and capable of
> > cooperating in a joint project like Debian. Try looking at this from
> > Debian's point of view instead of the poor abused applicant.
>
> Looking at it from Debian's point of view I don't really see what it
> achieves. ...
> It's not that it's impossible to get photos, but it could be a lot more
> hassle for some people than you seem to realise (perhaps this is a USA
> thing?) and doesn't do anything useful. The applicant has already
> physically met another developer, which is far more like the sort of
> contact you're trying to reproduce than having a couple of developers
> look at a photo and drop it in a file somewhere.
I think it is a US/Europe/Japan thing: consider the case of a hypothetical
wannabe Developer in a back-water of Mexico (as opposed to metro D.F.),
or Ghana, or Bangladesh, that has a older '486 or even a Pentium-class
machine now considered obsolete in a G7 country, having a phone line
that will support 28.8Kbps. He could upload a package, a smaller
package, maybe, but where in a 300 km radius is a scanner he can use?
Maybe he could ask that jet-setting Developer that Nortel happens
to be sending into his neck of the woods to bring a scanner along as
well as to meet him at the airport to meet him/sign his key?
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