On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:38:53PM +0100, Grammostola Rosea wrote: > tim hall wrote: >> Grammostola Rosea wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I want to install Rosegarden on Gnome, but it takes a lot of kde >>> packages with it in Debian, like konqueror etc. It basically messes >>> up my Gnome installation quit a bit... In what way does it mess up gnome? >>> >>> <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org> >>> Uncompressed Size: 10,2M >>> Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9), libasound2 (> 1.0.16), libc6 (>= >>> 2.7-1), libfftw3-3, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libgcc1 (>= >>> 1:4.1.1-21), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (>= 0.109.2), >>> liblo0ldbl (>= 0.23), liblrdf0, libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8b), libsm6, >>> libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1-4), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (> >>> 2.1.1), khelpcenter, rosegarden-data (= 1:1.7.0-1), >>> libxml-twig-perl, sndfile-programs, xterm, kdebase-bin, >>> konqueror | www-browser, flac >>> >>> >>> Are these packages really needed? Yes >>> What packages are 100% needed? The ones listed above >>> Can't you guys make the depends which are not really depends, >>> recommended packages? Yes, I have. >You know apt and aptitude install recommended >>> packages by default, but you can turn it off if you want... >> How does it mess up your GNOME install? >> Is this problem specific to the 1.7.0 version? >> >> I suspect that the majority of these dependencies are correct; >> Rosegarden is a fairly hefty application. I don't actually understand >> the dep on konqueror | www-browser (should be satisfied by any >> sensible browser) AND khelpcenter - I guess you would need a >> web-brower to read the manual? Yes, when you ask for 'help' in rosegarden, it loads the help in a web browser, which is why there is a dependency on "konqueror | www-browser" >> standardized on the GNOME framework. The rosegarden devs recognize >> this disparity, but so far the people-power required to make a gtk >> port has not manifested AFAIA. No, there is a current effort upstream to switch rosegarden from kde to qt, but not one to port it to gtk. I wouldn't expect a port to gtk. >> > I installed 1.7.2 version, so the issue doesn't seems to be fixed. I > included Rosegarden in a custom build live-cd, so maybe that's why he > installed konqueror... What exactly is the issue? > > depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9), libasound2 (> 1.0.16), libc6 (>= > 2.7-1), libfftw3-3, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libgcc1 (>= > 1:4.1.1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (>= 0.116.1), > liblo0ldbl (>= 0.23), liblrdf0, libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8b), libsm6, > libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (> 2.1.1), > rosegarden-data (= 1:1.7.2-1), libxml-twig-perl, > sndfile-programs, xterm | x-terminal-emulator, kdebase-bin, > konqueror | www-browser, flac > Recommends: jackd, lilypond, swh-plugins | ladspa-plugin, khelpcenter > Suggests: qjackctl > > Isn't it possible to make konqueror | www-browser a recommends? Doesn't > that solve the konqueror issue? No, this should not be a recommends, it can be a depends. If you don't want to install konqueror, you can install anything that Provides: www-browser, such as iceweasel or epiphany-browser. "apt-cache showpkg www-browser" will list all of the available www-browser package in the "Reverse Provides:" section. stew
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