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Re: Rosegarden and Gnome



tim hall wrote:
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
Hi,

I want to install Rosegarden on Gnome, but it takes a lot of kde packages with it in Debian, like konqueror etc. It basically messes up my Gnome installation quit a bit...

# aptitude show rosegarden
Package: rosegarden State: not installed Automatically installed: no Version: 1:1.7.0-1 Priority: extra Section: sound Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Team <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org> Uncompressed Size: 10,2M Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9), libasound2 (> 1.0.16), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libfftw3-3, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (>= 0.109.2), liblo0ldbl (>= 0.23), liblrdf0, libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8b), libsm6, libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1-4), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (> 2.1.1), khelpcenter, rosegarden-data (= 1:1.7.0-1), libxml-twig-perl, sndfile-programs, xterm, kdebase-bin, konqueror | www-browser, flac


Are these packages really needed?
What packages are 100% needed?
Can't you guys make the depends which are not really depends, recommended packages? You know apt and aptitude install recommended packages by default, but you can turn it off if you want...
How does it mess up your GNOME install?
Is this problem specific to the 1.7.0 version?

I suspect that the majority of these dependencies are correct; Rosegarden is a fairly hefty application. I don't actually understand the dep on konqueror | www-browser (should be satisfied by any sensible browser) AND khelpcenter - I guess you would need a web-brower to read the manual?

If by 'you guys' you mean the 64 Studio team, then the answer is 'no', we don't make the package, we distribute it (although in this case there is a large degree of crossover). Most people involved in this process are well aware of the workings of apt etc. The place to report dependency problems like this is against the package itself, usually by using the Debian Bug-tracking system. Obviously we can (and do) follow up these kinds of issues, but ultimately this is down the member of the Debian-multimedia team that actively maintains this app. So it would be a Good Thing if you checked to see if this issue has already been raised in the BTS. AFAICS this issue should be fixed in the 1.7.2 version, which should not pull in either khelpcenter or konqueror by default any longer. Which means we all have to wait for the package to trickle down from Debian unstable.

The project to modernize Rosegarden, which produced this mk#4 iteration, began before Debian multimedia and many other audio apps standardized on the GNOME framework. The rosegarden devs recognize this disparity, but so far the people-power required to make a gtk port has not manifested AFAIA.

I installed 1.7.2 version, so the issue doesn't seems to be fixed. I included Rosegarden in a custom build live-cd, so maybe that's why he installed konqueror...

depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.9), libasound2 (> 1.0.16), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libfftw3-3, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (>= 0.116.1), liblo0ldbl (>= 0.23), liblrdf0, libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.8b), libsm6, libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxft2 (> 2.1.1), rosegarden-data (= 1:1.7.2-1), libxml-twig-perl, sndfile-programs, xterm | x-terminal-emulator, kdebase-bin, konqueror | www-browser, flac
Recommends: jackd, lilypond, swh-plugins | ladspa-plugin, khelpcenter
Suggests: qjackctl

Isn't it possible to make konqueror | www-browser a recommends? Doesn't that solve the konqueror issue?

(btw I don't think you have konqueror installed on 64studio is it?)

\r


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