Reinhard Tartler wrote:
Felipe Sateler <fsateler@gmail.com> writes:Note that the (some?) maintainers are still active AFAICS, it's just that the list itself isn't useful. I haven't seen much collaboration.If the debian-multimedia team is indeed dead, we should avoid setting it in the maintainer field of any package. Nobody is served with unreachable (or non-existant) maintainers.Well, this rather supports my suggestion to not use the mailing list in the maintainer field, doesn't it?
Not directly, no. However, it does bear further discussion. The debian-multimedia team currently maintains:main: aeolus, amb-plugins, ams, amsynth, ardour, ardour-altivec, ardour-i686, audacity, blepvco, create-resources, das-watchdog, fil-plugins, flake, fluidsynth-dssi, fusd-kor-source, gigedit, glashctl, hexter, hydrogen-drumkits, jackd, jackeq, kmidimon, libclalsadrv-dev, libclalsadrv1, libclthreads-dev, libclthreads2, libclxclient-dev, libclxclient3, libflake-dev, libfreebob0, libfreebob0-dev, libfusd-dev, libfusd1, libgavl-dev, libgavl0, libjack-dev, libjack0, libjack0.100.0-0, libjack0.100.0-dev, ll-scope, mcp-plugins, mhwaveedit, omins, opencubicplayer*, opencubicplayer-doc*, openmovieeditor, qtractor, rev-plugins, rosegarden, rosegarden-data, schism*, sineshaper, stops, traverso*, vco-plugins, vkeybd, wavbreaker, wsynth-dssi, xsynth-dssi
non-free: midisport-firmware
- the majority of which are actively maintained. Currently watching
Aeolus-0.8.1 and Ardour-2.4.1. It looks as if Rosegarden-1.6 is back in
testing. I'm not sure about the status of qtractor. New versions of
libfreebob0 and openmovieeditor are available. I'm sure omins should
have been orphaned along with om-synth, does anyone know of a reason we
should be keeping it? Really we should be packaging Ingen instead. Some
of these: Ardour; Jackd; Rosegarden et al. are flagship multimedia
packages - i.e. they are important to us. (not the same as technically
Important)
Debian-multimedia is a Good Name - an obvious place to look if you don't otherwise know where to discuss multimedia topics on Debian. The list is only not useful because none of you use it. Pkg-multimedia-maintainers is an alioth.debian list, people are not going to subscribe to a list with a name like that unless they know they need to.
The issue of co-maintenance is more thorny. Ideally, the above packages should have a proper human maintainer and in fact, some of them do, but they aren't DDs, which is why we have this confusing hodge-podge instead.
I'd like to see debian-multimedia used to discuss multimedia-specific qa issues (amongst other stuff), which is what debian-qa (more-or-less) expects us to be doing. I know this is tantamount to herding cats, but it should be the appropriate list for everyone involved in multimedia on Debian to focus on. I'm not sure that this is a good time to dig up the roses, but I think it would be useful to open up a wide-ranging discussion of the issues.
cheers, tim