Re: Debian policy on multimedia ?
On Sunday 19 February 2006 04:08, Junichi Uekawa was like:
> > > > I think if we are making policy here, then setting ALSA as the basic
> > > > sound system with JACK used in all cases where applications need to
> > > > be able to communicate about audio signals in realtime, is the only
> > > > sensible option. This will force everything else to be compatible,
> > > > which is a Good Thing (TM). There are very few 'professional' quality
> > > > audio applications that don't use these protocols. A/DeMuDi has
> > > > enforced ALSA/JACK compatibility for two or three years now.
> > >
> > > Being a Debian policy, I don't think it's useful to have a policy that
> > > excludes most of the classic applications. OSS is a good standard
> > > interface.
> > I'm not suggesting making Policy that would exclude applications. Which
> > do you regard as 'classic'? OK, let's break it down a bit. I shall try to
> > be RFC2119 compliant. (not to be read as shouting ;)
> > ALSA MUST be the core sound system. Life would be much simpler if OSS
> > were deprecated, but there is a perfectly useable compatibility layer,
> > which is available by default. I trust there is little disagreement on
> > these points?
> In terms of 'Debian policy', it will go this way:
> Debian recommends use of JACK and ALSA for sound output device,
> and use them when possible. (Rationale; for application interoperability,
> applications within Debian should try to talk the same protocol)
> It is still allowed for other applications to use other sound output
> protocols, but it should be explained in the Description field of the
OK, that's clear.
I can work with that.
> > > > I also think we should start considering 3d graphics support as a
> > > > serious issue. I know this is largely driver-dependent. 3d graphics
> > > > have some 'serious' applications in the multimedia realm. If we are
> > > > looking to the future this must not be relegated to 'eye-candy for
> > > > gamers' - it is more important than that IMO.
> > >
> > > This is Debian, and we're better off supporting something free. I'm
> > > not confident enough with free drivers for 3d graphics cards that they
> > > are quite ready.
> > We MUST ONLY support that which is DFSG free. Which is why I collect
> > Voodoo Banshee cards. ;) So agreed, but I still think it's an important
> > issue and ought to be mentioned in the Policy document, even if it is
> > only a stub to say that free 3d support is lacking unless you use 3dfx
> > based cards.
> And another thing is that 3D cards isn't really within the scope of
> debian-multimedia, it is addressed by X strike force. I understand we
> don't really have different protocols for 3D. We just have drivers
> for cards with have different implementation levels.
Understood. This is all about practicalities. I'll hassle X strike force about
this particular issue then. :)