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Re: realtime-module-2.6.5-1_0.0.4-3+2.6.5-3_i386.changes ACCEPTED (fwd)



On Tue, 11 May 2004, tim hall wrote:
> Guenter,
>
> I've been considering upgrading my kernel for a while, I'm currently still
> running a 2.4.22 (Agnula) kernel and a non-canonical mixture of testing and
> Agnula/DeMuDi-1.1.0 packages at the moment. I'm wondering how much trouble I
> would be letting myself in for if I was to make such a jump with the kernel.

Hi Tim,

The Debian (and Demudi) kernels are setup in a way so that you can always
double boot, that means if you install a new kernel, you can still access
the old one using the linux.old boot entry (which is an advantage if the
new kernel does not work for your system). So, by installing a new kernel
you should loose nothing.

If you do not like the new one, just boot the old one.

>
> I'm still relatively new to Debian Multimedia, I've been using it for a year &
> a half and I am wary of ending up with a broken system, naturally. I'll be
> running it on an i810 chipset and I'm wondering if this kernel is going to be
> stable enough to be able to get on with making music or whether this is
> really a mission for a non-production machine and a more experienced user.

Hard to tell. As there are so many different hardware setups, there is
never a guaranty that things that were working will still do in 2.6.
But then some thing that weren't, may.
One reason for having the unstable/testing/stable cycle is to be able
to collect as much information as possible about the stability of the
system. Of course if no-one would use and test the unstable and testing
stuff this could not work out.

>
> Now that the Agnula/DeMuDi-1.1.1 live CD is here, I'm thinking of replacing my
> Woody install with that, this way I can still be of use to the Agnula team.
> However I'd also like to keep my testing/unstable install relatively up to
> date - I generally try to stay under the threshold of known bugs unless
> dependencies force me to do otherwise.
>

Well, one good thing is that the AGNULA team will try to integrate more
into Debian, I am currently uploading Paul Bossiers supercollider package,
several other AGNULA packages are already in Debian (from Free Ekanayaka
or Hans Fugal). This means that Demudi will be more or less a subset
of the Debian packages, but with an installer, the wonderfull
documentation of Dave Phillips and all the user support that is offered
by the AGNULA/Demudi team.

As of the Live CD. As a user it is most of the time a pleasant experience
having a knoppix based distribution installed, up to the time when you
want to upgrade. Knoppix uses some non standard (non Debian) startup
scripts which partly depend on the way the Knoppix packages are setup.
(or, the Debian packages that Knoppix uses at that time). The problem that
you can have with that is that if you like to upgrade your system to a more
recent Debian snapshot, these scripts may break because they are
somehow "out of the system".

> As ever, any thoughts, advice &c. gratefully accepted.
>
> And Guenter, while we're at it; Thanks for all the work you've done for DeMuDi
> - it has allowed me access to the kind of musical tools that previously I had
> only dreamed of. This week I started learning pd :-)

Thanks for the flowers, learning pd will definitely be a nice
experience. Take care that you do not get addicted :)

Guenter

>
> cheers
>
> tim hall
>
> On Tuesday 11 May 2004 11:18, guenter geiger wrote:
> > Just to let you know, the realtime LSM modules compiled for the latest
> > 2.6.x kernel (2.6.5) were accepted into the Debian archive.
> >
> > Fortunatly the Debian 2.6 kernel series come preconfigured for low
> > latency work (CONFIG_PREEMPT is enabled) and all parts are in place
> > for "off the shelf" low latency work.
> >
> > Rumours say that 2.6.6 will be even better. Anyhow, as this is the
> > first time that we have a low latency system in the stock Debian
> > distribution, we need testing, testing and feedback :)
> >
> > Until now the realtime module gives higher permissions to
> > users in the audio group, as well as programs that are set
> > gid audio.
> >
> > Now we have to check if all our favourite applications play well
> > with this settings.
>
>
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