Re: Building package under kfreebsd/hurd
Thanks!. I will try your suggestions.
Best regards.
Elías
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> wrote:
> On 11/07/2016 12:46 AM, Elías Alejandro wrote:
>> I wonder if there's a way to build packages for distinct
>> architectures, specifically for
>> Hurd or Kfreebsd. Do I have to create a new installation or use qemu?.
>
> In my experience the easiest way to do so is to use a virtual
> machine (I prefer libvirt + virt-manager with Qemu for that),
> boot the machine, install an SSH server and
>
> In the case of Hurd, you really don't want to use that on your
> bare-metal hardware, because last time I checked it didn't
> support USB yet. (If you don't need USB you can of course use
> it. ;-)) kFreeBSD is not a problem in that regard, but unless
> your system is really RAM-starved a VM is still much easier to
> handle.
>
> Note that it's not completely trivial to set up these machines.
> The problem is that most installation media you can find are
> a bit older, and if you've ever tried to install testing/sid
> with an older installer, you can see that it often doesn't
> quite work because sid will have moved on quite a bit. Plus
> a lot of the documentation you find is a bit outdated for
> both archs - there is more current documentation, but when
> searching you more often than not find the outdated docs in
> my experience, before you find the current ones.
>
> In the case of Hurd Samuel Thibault provides premade images
> you can use:
> https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/README
> https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/
> I suspect that's going to be the easiest way of setting up a
> VM there. (Please do a dist-upgraded before you actually use
> them to try stuff though, they are relatively up to date, but
> aren't daily images.)
>
> In the case of kFreeBSD, I'm not completely sure anymore,
> but if I remember correctly, I used the Jessie rc3 installer
> to install the VM and then dist-upgraded to sid (by changing
> the sources.list):
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/jessie_di_rc3/kfreebsd-amd64/iso-cd/
> (That may or may not work, depending on whether I remember
> correctly.)
>
> In both cases (Hurd, kFreeBSD) please be aware that while a
> lot of the everyday userland is still the same as with the
> Linux ports (e.g. ls, cp, etc.), many administrative commands
> are quite different or at least have different options / a
> different output. Especially Hurd can be quite weird when you
> first come in contact with it; once you get to know some of
> the concepts and ideas behind it, it's actually really cool,
> but there's a bit of a learning curve there.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>> [1]https://wiki.debian.org/qemubuilder
>
> I haven't tried that yet, but from reading the wiki page it
> looks to me that it's mostly a Linux thing - and while there
> is no inherent reason why fully-fledged VMs with Hurd or
> kFreeBSD wouldn't work in principle with something like that,
> I suspect that you'd need to fix a lot of things to make it
> work. (I may be wrong though.) It's probably easier to just
> use a virtual machine manually yourself.
>
> Regards,
> Christian
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