Re: Four days
Michael Gilbert <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> A lot. The current process is individualized mentorship, not team
How so? Anyone can provide input on a question asked here, and
frequently a question will get a team of mentors descending to mentor
You might be talking, not about mentors, but about *sponsorship*. Yes,
of course there needs to be some individual sponsoring a particular
release for upload into Debian.
But sponsoring is done per release per package. That's not the
mentorship process, which happens in the open, in a team environment,
here in discussions in this forum.
> One is to use the mentors mailing list as the maintainer for mentee
With this wording it's becoming clear that you don't mean “mentor”, but
rather mean “sponsor”. I'll proceed on that basis.
> That way the burden of quickly orphaned packages is dispersed over the
> whole set of mentors rather than just one.
I think it's a mistake to make a mailing list take on the role of
sponsor; not everyone on this list is in a position to sponsor packages
(I am not), and you get the problem that responsibility for sponsorship
would be diluted.
Teams should form around areas of interest and expertise in a particular
kind of package. I don't think there's a useful expertise of “packages
maintained by people who aren't yet Debian members”, so it's not
sensible to make such a team.
So I don't think a “team sponsor” would be a good idea. Rather, if
packages deserve team maintenance or not, that's orthogonal to whether
the package needs its releases sponsored into Debian.
> The other idea is to reduce DD involvement in the mentoring process
> itself by making mentees more responsible for themselves. Take a set
> of mentees, have them work together to get their packages in shape,
> then maybe once a month (or every couple weeks) have them show the set
> of packages that they have ready to the mentors list. That would also
> reduce RFS traffic on this list. This list would become more of a
> coordination point for joining mentee teams.
That doesn't need a separate forum though; people already come here to
‘debian-mentors’ as a forum to ask advice about packaging, and they do
in fact get that advice, from Debian members and non-members alike.
I agree that advice should be sought much more commonly before the RFS
is sent; I think this forum is already good for that purpose. How do you
propose encouraging that behaviour, though?
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