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Re: Two Q: upstream & xforms

Martin Schulze <joey@kuolema.Infodrom.North.DE> writes:

> > My email reader of choice is xfmail (in non-free).  Is it in
> > non-free because of it's copyright.. or because of the copyright
> > of the xforms library that it uses.  I read both copyrights and
> > they both seemed to fit in with debian's policy of free software.
> > Could someone point out WHAT makes either xforms or xfmail
> > "non-free"?

| This software can be freely distributed and modified for
| non-commercial purposes as long as the above copyright message and
| this permission notice appear in all copies of distributed source code
| or included as separate file in binary distribution.
| Commercial use of this software requires the permission of the
| authors.

This fails #1 of the DFSG.


| Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software in its entirety
| for non-commercial purposes and without fee, is hereby granted, provided
| that the above copyright notice and this permission notice appear
| in all copies and their documentation. 
| If you intend to use xforms commercially, this includes in-house
| use and consulting, you must contact the authors at 
| xforms@world.std.com for a license arrangement. Running a publicly 
| available freeware that requires xforms is not considered commercial use,
| even in a commercial setting.
| This software is provided "as is" without expressed or implied
| warranty of any kind.
| You may not "bundle" and distribute this software with commercial
| systems and/or other distribution media without prior consent of the 
| authors. The only exception is for Linux CD distribution of
| free software that requires xforms and in that case, xforms
| can be bundled and repackaged.

This fails #1 and is just nasty.

> xforms is contrib because we don't have the source code or so.  

Not really; it's in non-free because it has a sucky copyright.

> If XFMail is based on it and has a DFSG complient license it may go
> into contrib, too.

Again, not really.

~Yawn And Walk North~

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