Re: Mate config questions.

[Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>]

Hi,

On  Di 05 Mär 2019 17:15:13 CET, Robert Heller wrote:

> At Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:02:41 +0000 Mike Gabriel  
> <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On  Fr 01 Mär 2019 20:12:36 CET, Robert Heller wrote:
> >
> > > I set up Mate under Ubuntu 18.04 and I have some config questions.
> > >
> > > 1) I want to disable the graphical file manager -- I have no use for
> > > it and it
> > > just clutters my screen with lots of file icons (and binds itself to my
> > > pointer, preventing me from accessing root window bindings for my window
> > > manager (fvwm)). As a temp fix, I renamed the file manager executable in
> > > /usr/bin, but that will be undone the next time apt-get  
> > dist-upgrade installs
> > > a updated version of the graphical file manager. Under Gnome 2  
> > the "trick" is
> > > to use gconf-editor to edit the required_components under session  
> > under gnome
> > > under desktop (setting the File Manager property to "/bin/true").  
> > This does
> > > not work for Mate. What is the trick for Mate?
> >
> > I don't really have a clue about this one.
> >
> > Do you launch mate-session together with fvwm? This feels doubled. You
> > should only use one X11 session manager.
>
> FVWM is NOT a session/desktop manager, it is a *window* manager.  At least in

Right!

> the way I use it.  I start fvwm with "--replace", so it comes up and
> *replaces* the mate supplied window manager.  This is essentually way I do
> with GNome 2 on my CentOS 6 machines.

You need to grep through the code (of mate-session, I guess) and find  
where caja gets executed. Esp. where caja in --desktop mode gets  
executed. This should help you with understanding what is happening  
under the bonnet.

> > I guess, this will end up in code reading of
> > github.com/mate-desktop/mate-session to figure out why your /bin/true
> > hack is not working anymore.
> >
> > I use MATE components on the i3 desktop quite regularly, and there,
> > Caja (the file browser) only appears as a file browser when launched.
> > The desktop root window is managed by i3. My suspicion is that you
> > should avoid mate-session from being launched at session startup.
> >
> > Asking the other way around. What components of MATE do you want to use?
>
> I need some sort of "modern" session manager toy since many applications need
> it and its assocated stuff (various daemons for stuff like dbus,  
> etc.) to work
> properly.  Stuff like NetworkManager and the audio system.  The only  
> *visible*
> piece of MATE is one mate-panel, with these applets: clock, NetworkManager
> Applet, disk mounter, the battery/power applet, and the window switcher.

Ok. Sounds sensible.

> > > 2) I won't be using Mate's system menu.  Instead I will be using  
> > my own menu
> > > system.  I would like to gain access to the Logout and Shutdown  
> > dialogs from
> > > the session manager (mate-session?).  With Gnome 2, this is  
> > doable with dbus
> > > messages:
> > >
> > > dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager
> > > org.gnome.SessionManager.Logout "uint32:0"
> > > dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager
> > > org.gnome.SessionManager.Shutdown
> > >
> > > What is the corresponding "magic" for Mate?
> >
> > If you use mate-session as X11 session manager, you can use
> > mate-session-save (see its man page for details) to let the
> > logout/shutdown dialogs pop up.
>
> OK, that is something I could use.

Yep.

Mike
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