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Re: Mate config questions.



At Tue, 05 Mar 2019 15:02:41 +0000 Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On  Fr 01 Mär 2019 20:12:36 CET, Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> > I set up Mate under Ubuntu 18.04 and I have some config questions.
> >
> > 1) I want to disable the graphical file manager -- I have no use for  
> > it and it
> > just clutters my screen with lots of file icons (and binds itself to my
> > pointer, preventing me from accessing root window bindings for my window
> > manager (fvwm)). As a temp fix, I renamed the file manager executable in
> > /usr/bin, but that will be undone the next time apt-get dist-upgrade installs
> > a updated version of the graphical file manager. Under Gnome 2 the "trick" is
> > to use gconf-editor to edit the required_components under session under gnome
> > under desktop (setting the File Manager property to "/bin/true"). This does
> > not work for Mate. What is the trick for Mate?
> 
> I don't really have a clue about this one.
> 
> Do you launch mate-session together with fvwm? This feels doubled. You  
> should only use one X11 session manager.

FVWM is NOT a session/desktop manager, it is a *window* manager.  At least in 
the way I use it.  I start fvwm with "--replace", so it comes up and 
*replaces* the mate supplied window manager.  This is essentually way I do 
with GNome 2 on my CentOS 6 machines.

> 
> I guess, this will end up in code reading of  
> github.com/mate-desktop/mate-session to figure out why your /bin/true  
> hack is not working anymore.
> 
> I use MATE components on the i3 desktop quite regularly, and there,  
> Caja (the file browser) only appears as a file browser when launched.  
> The desktop root window is managed by i3. My suspicion is that you  
> should avoid mate-session from being launched at session startup.
> 
> Asking the other way around. What components of MATE do you want to use?

I need some sort of "modern" session manager toy since many applications need 
it and its assocated stuff (various daemons for stuff like dbus, etc.) to work 
properly.  Stuff like NetworkManager and the audio system.  The only *visible* 
piece of MATE is one mate-panel, with these applets: clock, NetworkManager 
Applet, disk mounter, the battery/power applet, and the window switcher.

> 
> > 2) I won't be using Mate's system menu.  Instead I will be using my own menu
> > system.  I would like to gain access to the Logout and Shutdown dialogs from
> > the session manager (mate-session?).  With Gnome 2, this is doable with dbus
> > messages:
> >
> > dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager  
> > org.gnome.SessionManager.Logout "uint32:0"
> > dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager  
> > org.gnome.SessionManager.Shutdown
> >
> > What is the corresponding "magic" for Mate?
> 
> If you use mate-session as X11 session manager, you can use  
> mate-session-save (see its man page for details) to let the  
> logout/shutdown dialogs pop up.

OK, that is something I could use.

> 
> Mike

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