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Re: proposed removal of Enigmail from jessie/LTS

On 2018-12-20 14:30:49, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> fwiw, i agree with jmm that encouraging users to upgrade to stable is
> the best outcome here.  The question is, what are we doing to the folks
> who (for whatever reason) can't make that switch.
> On Thu 2018-12-20 17:01:30 +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
>> If suddenly all kinds of core libraries are getting updated in jessie
>> (with minimal testing)
> we're not talking about "all kinds of core libraries" -- we're talking
> about a very selected subset.  And i don't think we're talking about
> "minimal testing", there has been a reasonable amount of testing.  I
> think we ought to consider this specific case, rather than trying to
> make a systematized rule.
>> EOLing enigmail seems the only sensible option by far.
> the main issue with EOLing enigmail is that users will (instead of
> upgrading to stable) typically just use the version from
> addons.mozilla.org, which has both non-DFSG-free issues and
> significantly scary behavior (downloading and silently executing
> binaries from the web on the user's behalf).
> If we're EOLing thunderbird on jessie entirely, that'd be one thing (and
> i'd be ok with it).  But EOLing enigmail on its own sounds like a route
> to trouble for enigmail users on jessie.

So looking back at this problem again...

I'm not sure we should remove *both* enigmail and thunderbird from
jessie. I understand there are problems with the a.m.o version, but then
that's somewhat outside of scope of LTS. It would seem rather unfair for
users of thunderbird that do *not* use enigmail to have their favorite
email client yanked away from them because a third-party plugin fails to
be maintainer correctly.

Right now I'm leaning towards completely dropping support from Enigmail
in jessie, since the changes required are too far ranging to be

But I could be convinced otherwise.


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