On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:18:32 +1100 "Michael ." <keltoiboy@gmail.com> wrote: > >There is no namespace issue, we are building on the existing > >live-config > and > >live-boot packages that are maintained and bringing these into > >Debian as native projects. If necessary, these will be forks, but > >I'm hoping that won't have to happen and that we can integrate these > >packages into Debian and continue development in a collaborative > >manner. > > Actually there is and I think any person who works in a legal capacity > would verify that. No, in the Debian project, no team has exclusive rights over package namespaces - filename conflicts are different. Namespacing should be consistent with the purpose of the package to avoid confusion. live-build-ng is the next generation of build tool for live images. The name is appropriate. > With regards to collaboration, considering this is the first many > people have heard of this it seems to me you have not gone out of > your way to integrate people who have been working on these packages > into your project. As I said in my previous response to the Debian > Live list (which btw last time someone used the word Debian in a > unofficial capacity (Debian-Mulitmedia) they were asked to stop I > haven't seen any requests like this to the Debian Live mailing list > as yet) it would have been good if "instead of starting a new project > the group from the new project would be much better off assisting > with an already well established project > > >live-build has been deprecated by debian-cd, and live-build-ng is > >replacing it. In a purely Debian context at least, live-build is > deprecated. > >live-build-ng is being developed in collaboration with debian-cd and > >D-I. > > Just out of interests sake can you provide proof of this? He just did. Iain speaks as part of the debian-cd team. The debian-cd team deprecated live-build and have been looking for a replacement since before the Jessie release. I made a set of changes which underpin that support at DebConf15. Iain developed the code based upon that to deliver the missing support which is required by the debian-cd team. Job done. Well done, Iain. > You seem to be very intractable. No discussion, no change of heart, Correct. What has happened here is that the debian-cd team have finally found a solution to the provision of necessary support which has been lacking from the debian-live project for an inordinate amount of time. > not willing to discuss anything with people like Daniel who have been > doing this for years. If there has been correspondence from any part > of Debian and the team who are working on Debian-Live that shows this > is not something new and out of the blue I'll be very surprised. It's taken long enough already. There is no point waiting when the code is now working. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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