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Re: Help needed for lenny live RC1

> For gnome and kde, I renew my suggestion of excluding
> openoffice.org. The cumulative size of the openoffice.org*
> packages is more than 100 MB, that should be more than
> enough. I know you didn't like that suggestion, but please
> consider that a live-cd without openoffice.org is better than
> no live-cd. At least keep that as a last-resort plan if a
> better alternative doesn't show up.
> Anyway, if I find time and don't get lost in the dependency
> tree, I'll try to find other ways to cut 60 MB.

I've looked into the package list for the gnome flavor. I identified several "leaf" packages that might be removed together with some of their dependencies, but only few of them make for significant space, and those are packages that, while not strictly part of Gnome, one would reasonably expect to be there. Thus removing openoffice.org still seems to me the only viable option.

Anyway, these are the groups of packages that I found. The numbers are the sizes of the Debian binary packages. I am not sure how they translate into the size of the livecd image, but I suppose they be close. This was done manually, so the list of removable dependencies might not be complete or even correct.

- openoffice.org and reverse dependencies (leaf packages: openoffice.org, openoffice.org-help-en-us, openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us, openoffice.org-gnome, openoffice.org.gcj, openoffice.org-evolution):

  openoffice.org_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                        274558
  openoffice.org-base_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                  2953334
  openoffice.org-base-core_2.4.1-17_i386.deb              972514
  openoffice.org-calc_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                  5667066
  openoffice.org-common_2.4.1-17_all.deb                14508316
  openoffice.org-core_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                 38641752
  openoffice.org-draw_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                  2944348
  openoffice.org-evolution_2.4.1-17_i386.deb              356026
  openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev_2.4.1-17_all.deb        367204
  openoffice.org-gcj_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                   3575134
  openoffice.org-gnome_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                  355290
  openoffice.org-gtk_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                    469380
  openoffice.org-help-en-us_2.4.1-17_all.deb            12553068
  openoffice.org-impress_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                897852
  openoffice.org-java-common_2.4.1-17_all.deb            2975540
  openoffice.org-math_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                   584478
  openoffice.org-officebean_2.4.1-17_i386.deb             319650
  openoffice.org-report-builder-bin_2.4.1-17_i386.deb    1125102
  openoffice.org-style-andromeda_2.4.1-17_all.deb        3457616
  openoffice.org-style-tango_2.4.1-17_all.deb            3699482
  openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us_2.4.0-3_all.deb         5141642
  openoffice.org-writer_2.4.1-17_i386.deb                7496356
  openoffice.org-writer2latex_0.5-8_all.deb               383094
- inkscape:

  inkscape_0.46-2.lenny2_i386.deb                       18044096

- gimp:

  gimp_2.4.7-1_i386.deb                                  4001688
  gimp-data_2.4.7-1_all.deb                              9793454
- pidgin:

  pidgin_2.4.3-4_i386.deb                                 678692
  pidgin-data_2.4.3-4_all.deb                            7013756
- gthumb:

  gthumb_2.10.8-1_i386.deb                                666510
  gthumb-data_2.10.8-1_all.deb                           2123910

The following aren't strictly leaf packages, they are dependencies of the gnome metapackage, but are supposedly self-contained enough that they could be removed (or at least I guess so):

- gnome-games:

  gnome-games_2.16.3-1_i386.deb                           800790
  gnome-games-data_2.22.3-3_all.deb                     18506504
  gnome-cards-data_2.22.3-3_all.deb                       623648
  gnuchess_5.07-4.1_i386.deb                               95668

- gnome-themes-extras:
  gnome-themes-extras_0.9.0.deb0.4_all.deb               5767848

- gdm-themes:
  gdm-themes_0.6.1_all.deb                               3743604

Summary: to free ~55 MB as needed, you either remove openoffice.org (~105 MB), or gimp, inkscape and gnome-games (~49 MB) plus a few other packages (that may be pidgin, or gthumb and gnome-themes-extras, or gnome-themes-extras and gdm-themes...). Again, I'd choose openoffice.org.

I'll add that if you remove openoffice.org, you can include gnome-office as a replacement. It and its missing dependencies require ~16 MB, while removing openoffice.org will leave ~50 MB free:

  gnome-office_2.22.2~5_all.deb                            14424
  abiword-plugin-goffice_2.6.4-5+b1_i386.deb               62338
  abiword_2.6.4-5+b1_i386.deb                            2882026
  abiword-common_2.6.4-5_all.deb                         1979764
  gnumeric_1.8.3-5_i386.deb                              2287288
  gnumeric-common_1.8.3-5_all.deb                        5244684
  libfribidi0_0.10.9-1_i386.deb                            42644
  libgoffice-0-4_0.4.2-4_i386.deb                         630946
  libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-6_i386.deb          23488
  libaiksaurus-1.2-data_1.2.1+dev-0.12-6_all.deb          317310
  libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a_1.2.1+dev-0.12-6_i386.deb       33428
  libloudmouth1-0_1.4.2-2_i386.deb                         65202
  libots0_0.5.0-2_i386.deb                                 37990
  libwv-1.2-3_1.2.4-2_i386.deb                            138982
  libgoffice-0-6_0.6.3-1_i386.deb                        1119392
  libgoffice-0-common_0.4.2-4_all.deb                     773620
  libgsf-gnome-1-114_1.14.8-1lenny1_i386.deb               58258
  libgoffice-0-6-common_0.6.3-1_all.deb                   924960

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