Bug#973333: lintian.d.o: please add a symlink/redirect to the most recent version
Hi Pierre-Elliott,
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 2:40 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> wrote:
>
> I could not help but have a concern reading your reply. It feels to me
> that you could have the intent to move the *production* lintian site out
> of Debian's machines. Of course I could understand that a *test* version
> of lintian.debian.org would be hosted somewhere else. But I (and I'm
> probably not alone) would have a really hard time understanding or
> accepting that the production version moved outside of debian.org and on
> a non-controlled Debian machine.
>
> Lintian is debian-centric, and its checks have influence on many parts
> of the infra. To me it needs to stay in Debian for the production part.
>
> I hope you understand that.
I do not.
Like so many communications in Debian recently, I actually find your
tone inappropriate for a technical project. What is the purpose of
your message? Do you hope to guilt-trip me into using DSA
infrastructure? Had we not had friendly interactions in the past, I
might think your note came out of a mafia movie. Perhaps you are
making me a proposal I cannot refuse?
My planned improvements are driven solely by technical concerns. (Your
message mentions none.) I am still working on the new website and am
not really ready to explain my proposed changes. For now, it should be
sufficient to say that DSA is unable to deliver on several key aspects
of my envisioned changes. For example, DSA is unable to automatically
install newly released versions of Lintian, or its prerequisites.
That alone led to a string of extraordinarily frequent, error-prone
and entirely unnecessary interactions on rt.debian.org. A prominent
DSA member's response: "It's easier that way, for you and for us." At
some point, DSA also told me I made changes to their systems too
frequently. Nice solution!
At some point, I tried to share my vision of a real-time system that
can browse tags online. The response: "There is a trend toward static
pages at Debian." As far as I can tell, DSA and I live on two
different planets—which, to be fair, is not an unusual feeling from my
perspective in California's Silicon Valley.
In any event, I do not control the domain lintian.d.o, so whatever I
am working on will remain a test version unless people decide it works
better. That should be the goal. I do not understand how your message
did anything to make Lintian, or Debian, better.
Kind regards
Felix Lechner
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