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Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

Hello Miriam,

Op 24-03-15 om 21:05 schreef Miriam Ruiz:
> 2015-03-24 20:04 GMT+01:00 Paul van der Vlis <paul@vandervlis.nl>:
>> Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte:
>>> Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so),
>> What when the DD who packages it, would package it with the 5 user
>> limitation?
> If the 5 user limitation is a requirement, then the license is
> definitely not DFSG-free (and, also, they would have to figure out how
> to manage the contradiction between this limitation and the AGPL).
> Depending on the license, it might go to non-free, though.

The 5 user limitation is something in the software, but because it's
AGPL it's not forbidden to remove it. But I think the developer would
ask friendly to remove a version without the limitation from Debian.

> If it is not a requirement, but a suggestion, like "please, be nice,
> our business odel depends on the fact that the software is published
> with this limitation", then I think they should probably rethink their
> business model, because it is quite likely not going to work.

Not sure, I think it's an interesting experiment.
E.g. RedHat earns money with open source software too.

> And, even if some developer would upload it with that limitation,
> someone will likely file a bug request to remove it, and they will
> have to eventually remove it anyway. 

Why?  So far I see it's DFSG-free.

> Keep in mind, from the Social
> Contract, that "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software".

It's about distributing free software. And for the users it's nice that
it's packaged.

But, I am not sure if I would like it to have paid software in Debian,
maybe Debian should not only "free as in speech", but also "free as in

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen

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