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Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license


> I think everyone does claim that. You do know Debian doesn't just

Everyone being whom specifically?

> distribute the binaries from Php.net, right? No contortion: the php5
> in Debian is a derived work. Here's a list of patches
> http://sources.debian.net/src/php5/5.6.0%7Erc2%2Bdfsg-5/debian/patches

There is no such thing as "binaries from php.net", at least when
Debian-supported OSes are concerned. But even if they were, it's not a
separate product in any sane meaning of a product. Adding a config file
does not make it into a new product. Neither I have ever seen any
communication from Debian claiming it is anything but the product we all
know and love as "PHP". One could invent a thousand of contorted
definition of "product", including defining every binary with different
sha1 checksum as separate product, but this pointless exercise has
nothing to do with PHP and is just that - pointless.

>  I agree that renaming would not be constructive. Why can't people
> call this PHP, please, PHP project? 

They can, and they were told so many, many times.

> Would you change the licence to something more usual, like MIT/X style?

No, this is completely infeasible - this would require asking permission
from every contributor from the start of the project. Moreover, this
titanic effort would be completely useless as it would achieve no useful
purpose, because everybody - including Debian - is free to distribute
PHP under PHP license right now, and nobody ever tried to prevent
anybody from doing so. Literally nobody except Debian people ever said
there's any problem in that. Frankly, I am astonished at how much effort
is spend to find trouble where there was not ever one. Can't we spend
our time on something more useful?
Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect
SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/

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