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Re: "dissident test" has been proven wrong and should not be used any more



On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 04:25:58PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> [120924 16:10]:
> > > > Some people (Henning Makholm et al.) were on debian-legal around 2003
> > > > using this "dissident tests" to shoot down many non-GLP/BSD licenced
> > > > packages.
> > >
> > > You do not need the dissident test for that. You can also just quote the
> > > DFSG. The tests are just a method to make people not look to much at the
> > > letter but at the spirit of the DFSG to distinguish some pure
> > > theoretical issues from real world issues, i.e. to bring some saneness
> > > into the discussion.
> >
> > That is exactly my position: "You do not need the dissident test".
> 
> What you quote as being "exactly [your] position" is me trying to say
> that we need the dissident test. (And I hope noone gets DD who has not
> looked at it.)

I see your position.

But this "dissident test" has been streched to the extreme and shot down
many licenses as DFSG violation.

* requiring "organization name" as in this case is quite reasonable to ask.
* requiring to comply with law of the country is quite reasonable 
  (GPL2.0 does. Many licenses also require export control compliance.)

I understand requirering to disclose unreasonble amount of personal
information is problemetic...  Dissident test may have some value but
that is not the final test.

Osamu


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