Re: Distribution of media content together with GPLv2 code in one package?
In message <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Francesco
Poli <email@example.com> writes
Walter - Would you like to have an apple, a pear, or an orange?
Carl - I would prefer having a chocolate cake!
Walter - You can have the chocolate cake, as well, but which fruit
would you prefer among apples, pears, and oranges?
Carl - An apple, please.
The fact the Carl prefers cakes over fruits does *not* mean that there
is *no* fruit which he prefers (over other fruits)...
You do know, of course, that the W in my sig stands for Walter? :-)
Let's say it's Carl asking the question, this Walter's (true) answer,
actually, would be "none, thanks, fruit makes me sick" :-)
So you are going from the specific (you have a favourite fruit) to the
general (everyone has a favourite fruit), and getting it wrong. Sorry.
That was the point further back about a program having multiple authors
yet still being a coherent work. You can't necessarily do that with art.
I am not convinced that you cannot do that with art.
There are many examples of works of art with multiple authors.
The Iliad and the Odyssey come to mind, for instance (as you probably
know, many modern scholars believe that Homer never existed as a single
historical poet: poems attributed to him are believed to be the result
of the assembling and successive modifying of several stories that were
at first transmitted orally).
Thing is, we know these are works with multiple authors. And we can tell
when works of art have a single author. That's why I get rather annoyed
when people want me to write something for them, and then start hacking
it about - I don't care whether they write it, or I write it, I object
to the mess that results when we both write it.
Anyway, I don't think this point is relevant for our discussion.
How do you define "work"? :-) That was Ben's point in response to my
post, and I think it's relevant here. I'll address his point here, but
he chooses a recording for his example. Let's say I write and recite a
poem. Is the work the poem, or the recording? If I say "it's the poem",
then the recording contains the source. And if you say "the work is the
recording" and modify it, then as far as I'm concerned you've destroyed
the work, it is no longer a coherent whole. Why should I help you?
My wife's just interrupted me, and I think she's accidentally given me
the "correct" answer. "There is no such thing as 'source' for an
artistic work". Programming is maths, and as such there is a direct
correlation between the version we can understand, and the version the
computer can understand - they are "equivalent but different". There's
no such similarity for art. :-)
Anthony W. Youngman - firstname.lastname@example.org