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Re: JOGL in Debian



On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:58:50 +0100 Sylvestre Ledru wrote:

> > > 
> > > I am one of the developer of Scilab. We are rewriting the GUI from
> > > scratch using Java (Swing) and JOGL.
> > > Since we prefer to have Scilab packages available (especially
> > > because Scilab is going to change his  license to a free one),
> > 
> > That's really good news!
> > Which license are you considering to switch to?
> It is probably going to be CECILL.

Do you mean this one?
http://www.cecill.info/licences/Licence_CeCILL_V2-en.txt

It has an explicit conversion-to-GPLv2orlater clause, IIUC.
For this reason, it meets the DFSG.
Last discussion on this topic on debian-legal that I could find is
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00144.html

However, why not just adopt the plain GNU GPL v2 ?


Disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP.

> 
> > Firstoff, from a technical point of view, shipping the *exact same
> > code* in two different packages does not seem to be a good idea.
> > Could this duplication of code be avoided?
> > Is it possible to link or otherwise use the code included in the
> > mesa package, rather than packaging another copy of it?
> Well, it is the exact same code (ie not rewrote) but in Java... and I
> think JOGL devs prefer to avoid JNI code.

Then it's not the *exact same code*: it's a translation in Java.
That kinda explains why the original code included in mesa packages
cannot be directly used.

> 
> > Anyway, from a DFSG-freeness point of view, that license is indeed
> > problematic: see http://bugs.debian.org/368560 for the details.
> > Unfortunately, there seems to have been too little progress on this
> > bug so far.
> Do you know if anyone contacted the owner of the code ?
> Or if anything is planned to fix this issue ?

I have not been directly involved in the issue: I think that the people
who participated in the bug discussion should be contacted for further
information.


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