"MJ Ray" <mjr@phonecoop.coop> wrote in message [🔎] 1151833798.758999.1382.nullmailer@klnet.towers.org.uk">news:[🔎] 1151833798.758999.1382.nullmailer@klnet.towers.org.uk...
Joe Smith <unknown_kev_cat@hotmail.com>AIUI, the logos are considered trademarks. The "licence" strongly implies that Debian does not claim copyright on the open use logo, but merely trademark rights. [...]I disagree. Copyright (c) 1999 Software in the Public Interest is an unambiguous claim. The copyright permission is broad, though.
True. It would be better to drop the copyright, and use only trademark rights,
as that looks to be more or less the desired effect.
However, the trademark issue comes up. The use in your logo would likely imply endorsment, whichwould require a trademark licence (which is a strange way of saying specialpermission is needed).It depends if it is used for anything which requires a trademark licence.
Use of a trademark in a manner that implies endorsment is AIUI always something that requires a trademark licence. That is because use of a trademark to indicate ensorment is more than merely referencing the Project, and therefore requires a licence. Nomnitive use is a fair use defense in trademark law, but clearly use of a tradmark in a way that may imply endorsment is more than mear nomnitive use. Since a logo is normally used as a trademark (even if not registered) then this would also be use of a trademark in another trademark, which definately would require a trademark licence.