This one time, at band camp, Markus Laire said: > On 8/31/06, Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> wrote: > >Markus Laire writes: > >>I used to believe that Debian only included legal, DFSG-free software > >>in main, but "cdrtools" fiasco seems to prove that I was wrong. > > > >Ever since the issue in cdrtools was found, the Debian maintainers > >have been trying to convince the awkward upstream developer to fix his > >licensing. These things take time. > > So they've been doing this for 2 years, and have included > non-DFSG-free cdrtools in main while doing so? They even shipped Sarge > with this known non-DFSG-free package in main? > > IMHO cdrtools should've been removed from main while this process was > underway. Feel free to do some work on the problem, instead of just insulting people and grandstanding. > >In the end, those same maintainers > >have given up on that as a lost cause and instead have started work on > >a free cdrtools fork that will ship in etch instead of cdrtools. > > Do you have any link/source to support the claim that this will be > fixed for etch? > I havn't found any such information. Is there a public > source-code-repository for this fork? Have you looked? It's been announced in several places. > >Please don't start throwing around insulting terms like "hypocrisy" - > >they're not going to gain you any friends, nor are they going to > >encourage people to devote their valuable time to Free Software > >projects. > > If my comments about "hypocrisy" are true, then I don't care about > "friends" whom I might lost because of speaking the truth. Then it > would also be appropriate for people to be discouraged from devoting > their valuable time to "hypocritical" Free Software projects. > > If I was wrong, then I can only apologize and try to be more carefull > in the future. First, I guess you owe Steve and Eduard apologies. Second, it's not particularly helpful to tell people that are actually working on a problem that they are hypocritical or just 'claiming' to work on something. If you feel that this is a problem, get involved and work on it, instead of slinging mud at people. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | ,''`. Stephen Gran | | : :' : sgran@debian.org | | `. `' Debian user, admin, and developer | | `- http://www.debian.org | -----------------------------------------------------------------
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