Re: Against DRM 2.0
1. I'm sorry but I don't use IE and I have not that checkbox at the bottom...
2. I repeat: it's unlogical to value through a software definition a thing that is not software.
You can say: "I want value this music on the basis of this software definition". OK.
Also I can say: "I want value this wine on the basis of this water definition".
But the problem is that an image or a song is not software. For example, music concerns related rights (rights of executors and producers).
Your software definition say nothing about this (because software doesn't concern these important rights).
So you can logically value free music through a free content definition.
DFSG speak only about software, software and software.
Max
Andrew Donnellan <ajdlinux@gmail.com> wrote: On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote:
> 1. Ok: how? I use "Yahoo! Mail".
Found on http://expita.com/nomime.html:
"If using IE (not available in Netscape and other browsers) when in
the "Compose" window, make sure "Plain" is selected rather than "Color
and Graphics". These two choices are a toggle switch. Clicking on one
activates it and turns off the other.
In any browser, also make sure the "Allow HTML tags" checkbox at the
bottom is NOT checked."
I gave up on Yahoo mail ages ago - I'm a Gmail user.
>
> 2. Yes, DSC is changed, but DFSG are the same! :-)
> DFSG speak only about software and you value every work on the basis of a
> software definition! It's unlogical.
No it's not.
Try running this:
wget http://www.debian.org/social_contract
cat social_contract | sed 's/software/work/' > social_contract_work.html
Then open up that file and read it again. It is perfectly
logical.
>
> In this point of view, DSC v1 was logical and consistent; DSC v2 is
> unlogical and contradictory.
There is no DSC v2, it's DSC v1.1.
>
> I suggest a Debian Free Artwork Guidelines. ;-)
Why do we need them?
>
> 3. Question: is there a lawyer here??
AFAIK there are some who are occasional contributors. Most of us
aren't lawyers, we're just interested in law.
andrew
> Andrew Donnellan wrote:
>
> 1. PLEASE stop sending HTML.
> 2. GR-2004-003 changes the Debian Social Contract - it says that all
> 'works', not just software, must be free:
>
> "We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a ***work*** is
> "free"
> in the document entitled "The Debian Free Software Guidelines". We
> promise that the Debian system and ***all its components*** will be free
> ***according to
these guidelines***. We will support people who create or
> use both free and non-free works on Debian. We will never make the
> system require the use of a non-free component."
>
> On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote:
> > The license does not treat software: you cannot value the license on the
> > basis of Debian Free Software Guidelines. ;-)
> >
> > However, where can I read that Debian requires *everything*, not just
> > software, to be DFSG-free??
> >
> > A link, please.
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Donnellan wrote:
> >
> > Fine remark, but...
> >
> > Max, did you know that Debian requires *everything*, not just
> > software, to be DFSG-free? Not that it's particularly relevant since
> > there isn't a huge amount under the Against DRM license, but...
>
>
> > On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote:
> > > Very fine dissertation but...
> > > Evan, do you know that "Against DRM 2.0" does not treat software?? :-)
> > >
> > > ROFTL
> > >
> > > And why you don't speak about related rights?
> > >
> > > unnecessary license... mmmm :-)
> > >
> > > Max
> > >
> > >
> > > Evan Prodromou wrote:
> > >
> > > There are many platforms that _require_ DRM -- notably Sony game
> > > consoles and some palmtop computers. The "Against DRM" license (which
> > > might win the contest for the license with the clumsiest name ever)
> > > would prevent me from porting any software to those platforms -- even if
> > > I made clear-text, modifiable and/or source versions available.
> > >
> > >
>
> >
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