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Re: Against DRM 2.0



On 5/20/06, Max Brown <max05001@yahoo.com> wrote:
1. Ok: how? I use "Yahoo! Mail".

Found on http://expita.com/nomime.html:
"If using IE (not available in Netscape and other browsers) when in
the "Compose" window, make sure "Plain" is selected rather than "Color
and Graphics". These two choices are a toggle switch. Clicking on one
activates it and turns off the other.
In any browser, also make sure the "Allow HTML tags" checkbox at the
bottom is NOT checked."

I gave up on Yahoo mail ages ago - I'm a Gmail user.


 2. Yes, DSC is changed, but DFSG are the same! :-)
 DFSG speak only about software and you value every work on the basis of a
software definition! It's unlogical.

No it's not.

Try running this:

wget http://www.debian.org/social_contract
cat social_contract | sed 's/software/work/' > social_contract_work.html

Then open up that file and read it again. It is perfectly logical.


 In this point of view, DSC v1 was logical and consistent; DSC v2 is
unlogical and contradictory.

There is no DSC v2, it's DSC v1.1.


 I suggest a Debian Free Artwork Guidelines. ;-)

Why do we need them?


 3. Question: is there a lawyer here??

AFAIK there are some who are occasional contributors. Most of us
aren't lawyers, we're just interested in law.

andrew

Andrew Donnellan <ajdlinux@gmail.com> wrote:

 1. PLEASE stop sending HTML.
2. GR-2004-003 changes the Debian Social Contract - it says that all
'works', not just software, must be free:

"We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a ***work*** is
"free"
in the document entitled "The Debian Free Software Guidelines". We
promise that the Debian system and ***all its components*** will be free
***according to these guidelines***. We will support people who create or
use both free and non-free works on Debian. We will never make the
system require the use of a non-free component."

On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote:
> The license does not treat software: you cannot value the license on the
> basis of Debian Free Software Guidelines. ;-)
>
> However, where can I read that Debian requires *everything*, not just
> software, to be DFSG-free??
>
> A link, please.
>
> Max
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Donnellan wrote:
>
> Fine remark, but...
>
> Max, did you know that Debian requires *everything*, not just
> software, to be DFSG-free? Not that it's particularly relevant since
> there isn't a huge amount under the Against DRM license, but...
>
> On 5/20/06, Max Brown wrote:
> > Very fine dissertation but...
> > Evan, do you know that "Against DRM 2.0" does not treat software?? :-)
> >
> > ROFTL
> >
> > And why you don't speak about related rights?
> >
> > unnecessary license... mmmm :-)
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > Evan Prodromou wrote:
> >
> > There are many platforms that _require_ DRM -- notably Sony game
> > consoles and some palmtop computers. The "Against DRM" license (which
> > might win the contest for the license with the clumsiest name ever)
> > would prevent me from porting any software to those platforms -- even if
> > I made clear-text, modifiable and/or source versions available.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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