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Re: GR proposal: GFDL with no Invariant Sections is free



On 2006-01-31 00:40, Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:34:25 -0500 Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> > "olive" <olive.lin@versateladsl.be> wrote:
> > >  I personnaly think that Debian would do better to defend free
> > >  software if
> >
> > there were in accordance to the FSF.
> >
> > I personally think that the FSF would do much, much better at
> > defending free  software if they operated in accordance with Debian.
> > Debian-legal has proved  better at guaranteeing the FSF's 'four
> > freedoms' in practice than RMS, what  with the GFDL and all.
> >
> > Let's face it: the FSF didn't create a full free-software system.
> > Debian did.   The FSF didn't even create the majority of the GNU
> > project tools.  Volunteers  did, and many of them *disagree* with the
> > FSF leadership.  Discussions of the  merits of FSF policy are
> > forbidden on FSF mailing lists, with the exception  of a few which
> > appear to go to /dev/null.
> >
> > The FSF is, bizarrely, a top-down autocratic organization, with all
> > the flaws  that implies.  Debian isn't, with all the benefits and
> > flaws that implies.
>
> Agreed entirely.
> It's sad, but true...

I am new to this list... I was thinking about it before and didn't know that 
the debian people are trying to improve it. I knew about Open Source 
Initiative and that they based the definition on debian's guidelines.

I would never dispraise FSF's work nor that of individual programmers.

But yes, we need some progress.

Pavel

P.S.: Nice to meet you



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