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Re: Bug#265352: grub: Debian splash images for Grub

Raul Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 03:11:02PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>>When did I say I thought it acceptable that you would need to change
>>every single occurance of the word "Mozilla" when making a modified
>>version? :)  I said "top-level name", and I meant exactly that.  To the
>>extent names have been incorporated into functional parts of the work,
>>*which includes a requirement to change an image, as well as doing a
>>global s/Mozilla/other/g*, I do not consider it Free to require them to
>>be changed, and I do not believe it is covered under DFSG4.
> What does this have to do with trademarks?

This entire discussion concerns the interaction of trademarks with the
DFSG.  This particular argument was regarding what restrictions I
believe to be acceptable under DFSG4 and what unacceptable; the exact
mechanism used to enforce those restrictions is not really relevant.

>>(Personally, this argument is further strengthening my opinion that
>>DFSG4 has little redeeming value, and that we would be better served by
> I'll grant you that it's possible to rewrite the DFSG such that any
> software which mentions any trademark would be "non-free".
> Perhaps, by extension, this could also extend to all software in any
> countries which have trademark laws because the software doesn't grant
> rights to the trademarks of that country.

This is not at all what I meant, nor do I think that is a good idea.

- Josh Triplett

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