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Re: Bug#265352: grub: Debian splash images for Grub

Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
> Josh Triplett <josh.trip@verizon.net> writes:
>>The issue is that the top-level name of a project is relatively easy to
>>change, while needing to provide a replacement for possibly dozens or
>>hundreds of images *funtionally used* by the software is a significant
>>barrier to modification.
> No it's not.  Go ahead and try to change all the instances of Mozilla
> in Mozilla.  Observe that several of them are not plain text, but
> image files containing clever renderings of the text "Mozilla".  You
> get the image-changing problem anyway, because people can draw
> pictures of text.

When did I say I thought it acceptable that you would need to change
every single occurance of the word "Mozilla" when making a modified
version? :)  I said "top-level name", and I meant exactly that.  To the
extent names have been incorporated into functional parts of the work,
*which includes a requirement to change an image, as well as doing a
global s/Mozilla/other/g*, I do not consider it Free to require them to
be changed, and I do not believe it is covered under DFSG4.

We have covered similar requirements in other licenses as well: there
was a license that made the requirement that on request, you must purge
the name of the author entirely from the work.  I think that was from
one of the Creative Commons licenses.  That requirement was considered
non-free as well.

(Personally, this argument is further strengthening my opinion that
DFSG4 has little redeeming value, and that we would be better served by
striking it entirely; there are many who share this opinion, and many
who have expressed it on this list.  In addition to the earlier problems
that have been noted, it is apparently also confusing and ambiguous to

- Josh Triplett

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